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Old 06. Sep 2013, 03:47 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have to admit, you are tenacious. I guess I should thanks for plowing the road for me. Hopefully, by following your experience I can step over the rough spots when I give it a go. I'm still test driving Mint's KDE distro, which by the way is one of the best that I've tried.
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I've been described as tenacious before, during my government contracts, but reading between the lines I wondered if they were actually meaning something a bit less complimentary.

Today I just swapped over the cables between the two boxes so now I have Deepin as my main system. I'll repeat that if Gnome 3 looked like this when it was first released, I don't think we'd have seen so many DE forks appearing.

Memory use is great but CPU is higher. No big deal though because it's only a piece of kit and is meant to be used and not left idle. Looks like the Superkaramba desktop clock and date are responsible for some of the extra CPU so I'll look to see if there is any way to get the default panel clock customized instead. I have a variable speed fan on this machine anyway so I'll soon be aware if it starts complaining.

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Today another 26 packages appeared in an "upgrade" message and again the software center froze. I could see from my network indicator that stuff was still coming in so I left it alone and after about half an hour the "system is up to date" window appeared and all was well.

I then tried downloading a program. Speed again was like treacle and so erratic. Once the download completed the "installing" progress bar remained at zero for 4 minutes during which time there was still incoming network activity so it must have been getting additional files. It did complete eventually. IMO this is real confusing.
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Old 06. Sep 2013, 07:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'll repeat that if Gnome 3 looked like this when it was first released, I don't think we'd have seen so many DE forks appearing.
What makes Deepin so attractive, is it looks nothing like Gnome3, Just saying...
It looks like your working out the so called "niggles" but will it perform when you start running applications.

Dedoimedo had mentioned in his article that there were issues with how it handled resources.
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What makes Deepin so attractive, is it looks nothing like Gnome3, Just saying...
It looks like your working out the so called "niggles" but will it perform when you start running applications.

Dedoimedo had mentioned in his article that there were issues with how it handled resources.
Looks do feature prominently for my needs but of course might be totally unimportant to others, and for me Deepin does look "nice".

So far it is performing well enough in use. I would like to install it into my NVIDIA box too but I'm waiting for a forum response from them about the Jockey issue first.
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Finally downloaded the Deepin ISO and Have been running it in "live" mode. I think what makes this distro so good is its simplicity. Its very straight forward and intuitive, elegance through simplicity. It certainly is attractive, everything looks as if it belongs there.

The reverse side of simplicity is the difficulty to configure and modify settings especially things requiring root access. The file manager does not have the settings I'm used to. Although the launch bar is attractive it lacks the ability to set it up to my liking. The start menu throws the the Icons up on the desktop screen but I prefer more traditional menu. Some of these issues could very well be from running the distro in "live mode" All in all This distro has provoked my curiosity so I'm going to give it a go with a full install.
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Still a no-go on my NVIDIA box. I found out where the driver search program is located but even after using this I get a 1280 x 800 resolution instead of 1366 x 768. Forcing the install of an alternative driver gives the right resolution but the panel is now 50% off the bottom of the screen. Maybe there is some sort of fix but I can't be bothered to spend the time looking for it. I'll leave it installed on my ATI box but call it a day on this one.
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Still a no-go on my NVIDIA box.
Hmmm, I was about ready to install Deepin on my HDD until I ready your post. I too have had problems with my Nvidia hardware with several Linux versions. I recently upgraded and installed a Nvidia graphics card on my machine. As I recall it could get terribly aggravating so I think I'll pass on this one.
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Hmmm, I was about ready to install Deepin on my HDD until I ready your post. I too have had problems with my Nvidia hardware with several Linux versions. I recently upgraded and installed a Nvidia graphics card on my machine. As I recall it could get terribly aggravating so I think I'll pass on this one.
I honestly think this is the best policy unless you have the time and inclination to sort it all out with a full install. Gnome 3 is definitely heading in a better direction now, but it's no where near as easy as KDE to run on my 3 hardware setups.

I saw a comment recently on the Mageia blog that Gnome 3 was now getting good enough to make MATE and Cinnamon redundant. I think that's going too far at the moment but it could come to pass over the next couple of years.
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I honestly think this is the best policy unless you have the time and inclination to sort it all out with a full install. Gnome 3 is definitely heading in a better direction now, but it's no where near as easy as KDE to run on my 3 hardware setups.
Crap!.... Curiosity got the best of me. I went ahead and installed it. As I mentioned allot of the configuration issues were solved once I installed it on the HDD. The update operation can only be described as maddening. I had to reboot at least 4 times, heck I lost track. My wallpaper changed each time after rebooting, had no idea how to fix it, frankly at that point I didn't care. I blame Dedoimedo for this exercise of chaos. Deepin may one day be a distro that makes it in the main stream but right now (IMO) its not ready for prime time.

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