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trainman261 · 21. Dec 2017, 08:34 PM

OK, that's really weird. It isn't, by any chance, hitting any keys or anything like that...? Did you try putting a different book on there? (This isn't some kind of practical joke, is it...?)
Oh, and I am getting email notifications

mind you, I just switched them on (I have a habit of forgetting to turn them on on threads I respond to)

danielson · 21. Dec 2017, 10:20 PM

No. Believe me, this is no April Fools' joke.
The sudden turnaround is just a huge surprise for me.
I'm going to install MX-17 again in dual boot to see if it is any quieter than Windows 10.

Who knows! Maybe it was just a question about accumulated heat.
Now, that sounds like political talk!

trainman261 · 22. Dec 2017, 04:23 AM

Hmm, that's funny. Yes, it could be accumulated heat, but it wouldn't cool down that quickly. Just curious, while it was at 10-15% (right?) while idle, what was using the GPU? Was it one specific program or a wide assortment of processes? Because if it's a wide assortment of processes, accumulated heat might be an explanation (even though it's still very odd if you ask me).
Different question: if you put the book back on, does the GPU usage increase again?

Remah · 22. Dec 2017, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielson

This is weird.

For as long as i can remember, have always left a small book open on the laptop's keyboard (set to my left) with monitor open - hence dual monitor usage.

Decided to remove the booklet just to see and low and behold, the GPU stands at 0%!
Exited the program twice to make sure my eyes were seeing correctly.
Still same result.
Could it be a defective donationware?

Process Lasso would have had more than enough info for you to determine what was happening.

I'm just guessing as you didn't provide enough info but I can think of a few issues that could arise from the booklet being heavy enough to cause keyboard input. It is possible that you have all three of these issues.

First, your keyboard could generate a lot of interrupts particularly if non-alphanumeric keys were being depressed. It is possible for I/O interrupts to cause 40-50% CPU usage on an average laptop particularly where there either a) a lot of task switching involved or b) a lot of processing to handle each interrupt.

Second, maybe the key press(es) were specifically related to windows or displays. The GPU itself is treated as another I/O device so it is also interrupt-driven.

Function keys and other special keys are more likely to be around the edge of the keyboard so they are more likely to be depressed because an object placed upon them is unsupported on at least one side.

Third, another source of higher than expected CPU usage could be related to software you are using. Some application libraries are particularly resource intensive so you may have struck this for whatever keypresses were occuring.

danielson · 22. Dec 2017, 03:18 PM

@Remah - Wow!

You should think of working for some investigative agency!
Or, maybe you already do huh?!

Btw, running MX-17 is a good notch less noisy than Windows 10.
That is expected (but not all Linux distros behave likewise).
Although it does have its 'spurts' like when opening a browser, it doesn't take long to quiet down.
Is there a way to measure GPU on this kind of OS?

Guess i should try to see if MX-17 gets noisier if i put that booklet back on top of the keyboard.

danielson · 23. Dec 2017, 04:57 PM

Dual bootin' Windows 10 with MX-17 (and others) is fun but it is also the occasion of issues with printers (network especially) so, i've decided to abandon this venue altogether. It was a tough decision, but seeing that Windows 10 is now quieter than ever and the scanner (incompatible with Linux) still works. The choice wasn't too difficult to make.

Needless to say, i won't be testing the laptop keyboard with Linux.

Special thanks to Remah for dropping by to give that extensive explanation!

danielson · 24. Dec 2017, 03:34 PM

Seeing that i don't like to leave things in the open...
I decided to give MX-17 another try (this time as Btrfs).
A network issue i suspected is confirmed.
Previously, printer on the network would print at an incredibly slow pace (impact was felt even when trying to print via Windows side).
This time, lost internet connection (while in MX-17) and so did my friend (who was on Windows). My Android was still connected.

Didn't want to post this at MX forum 'cause this OS is a true gem.
Just think i'll have to put it on a separate computer instead of dual boot situation such as mine.

Btw, CPU level was at 2% on MX-17 compared to 17% on Windows with one tabbed browser open.

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21. Dec 2017, 08:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
trainman261 Editor (Android) Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 225	OK, that's really weird. It isn't, by any chance, hitting any keys or anything like that...? Did you try putting a different book on there? (This isn't some kind of practical joke, is it...?) Oh, and I am getting email notifications mind you, I just switched them on (I have a habit of forgetting to turn them on on threads I respond to)

21. Dec 2017, 10:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,176	No. Believe me, this is no April Fools' joke. The sudden turnaround is just a huge surprise for me. I'm going to install MX-17 again in dual boot to see if it is any quieter than Windows 10. Who knows! Maybe it was just a question about accumulated heat. Now, that sounds like political talk!

22. Dec 2017, 04:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
trainman261 Editor (Android) Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 225	Hmm, that's funny. Yes, it could be accumulated heat, but it wouldn't cool down that quickly. Just curious, while it was at 10-15% (right?) while idle, what was using the GPU? Was it one specific program or a wide assortment of processes? Because if it's a wide assortment of processes, accumulated heat might be an explanation (even though it's still very odd if you ask me). Different question: if you put the book back on, does the GPU usage increase again?

22. Dec 2017, 03:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,176	@Remah - Wow! You should think of working for some investigative agency! Or, maybe you already do huh?! Btw, running MX-17 is a good notch less noisy than Windows 10. That is expected (but not all Linux distros behave likewise). Although it does have its 'spurts' like when opening a browser, it doesn't take long to quiet down. Is there a way to measure GPU on this kind of OS? Guess i should try to see if MX-17 gets noisier if i put that booklet back on top of the keyboard.

23. Dec 2017, 04:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,176	Dual bootin' Windows 10 with MX-17 (and others) is fun but it is also the occasion of issues with printers (network especially) so, i've decided to abandon this venue altogether. It was a tough decision, but seeing that Windows 10 is now quieter than ever and the scanner (incompatible with Linux) still works. The choice wasn't too difficult to make. Needless to say, i won't be testing the laptop keyboard with Linux. Special thanks to Remah for dropping by to give that extensive explanation!

24. Dec 2017, 03:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,176	Seeing that i don't like to leave things in the open... I decided to give MX-17 another try (this time as Btrfs). A network issue i suspected is confirmed. Previously, printer on the network would print at an incredibly slow pace (impact was felt even when trying to print via Windows side). This time, lost internet connection (while in MX-17) and so did my friend (who was on Windows). My Android was still connected. Didn't want to post this at MX forum 'cause this OS is a true gem. Just think i'll have to put it on a separate computer instead of dual boot situation such as mine. Btw, CPU level was at 2% on MX-17 compared to 17% on Windows with one tabbed browser open.