Intel Chips Design Flaw - Page 2

deya · 04. Jan 2018, 11:58 PM

MC; that screen shot is the Intel-SA-00086 Detection Tool? I downloaded it and ran it on my laptop with the Intel processor and got the same result as you, 'This system is not vulnerable' - this was after the laptop got KB4056892 via WU this evening. I then downloaded and ran it on my system with the AMD processor (not Intel) and again got the same result. It names the processor as AMD, so I'm assuming this is correct? Just trying to clarify.

Anyway, both machines are patched now but same again, after re-starting the laptop CPU usage from .NET Runtime Optimization Service was very high and for quite some time. After it settled down I re-started the machine and everything was fine. Using it, I don't see any performance issues, at least for how I use it, I'm not a gamer or anything so it doesn't get that much hammer.

satrow · 05. Jan 2018, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by deya

... Intel-SA-00086 Detection Tool...

^ Has nothing to do with the Meltdown or Spectre vulnerabilities, it's for an earlier Intel ME/AMT/XE vuln. one of 2-3 published last year.

MidnightCowboy · 05. Jan 2018, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satrow

^ Has nothing to do with the Meltdown or Spectre vulnerabilities, it's for an earlier Intel ME/AMT/XE vuln. one of 2-3 published last year.

It is my understanding that the tool title remains unchanged but the version number is updated to include new threats. The version I used is from 22nd December, 2017 and it the latest available on the Intel site.

deya · 05. Jan 2018, 09:56 AM

Cheers guys, still some confusion then. satrow says what I was thinking, and MC says what I was hoping

The water's still too cloudy at the moment regarding this issue so it's a case of apply the updates then watch and wait.

satrow · 05. Jan 2018, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MidnightCowboy

It is my understanding that the tool title remains unchanged but the version number is updated to include new threats. The version I used is from 22nd December, 2017 and it the latest available on the Intel site.

https://security-center.intel.com/ad...nguageid=en-fr

INTEL-SA-00088 Original release: Jan 03, 2018

Anupam · 05. Jan 2018, 06:56 PM

No updates for me on either the desktop or my old laptop.

I thought it might be due to Avast antivirus, but Avast have already released the mini-update to be compatible with the MS update.

I am wondering where is the update

The Intel tool shows my desktop as vulnerable, but gives an error when run on the laptop.

deya · 05. Jan 2018, 11:55 PM

Leave them powered up and keep checking manually for updates, that usually works. Failing that, there's always the update catalogue and install them that way. Surely it won't be too long until you get them if they're so important. Have you tried disabling your AV and trying that way?

Anupam · 06. Jan 2018, 08:27 AM

Can't leave my desktop running, because of the voltage issue, otherwise it kept running all day. Nowadays I am using the laptop more, so it keeps running through the day.

Manually checked for update too... none yet.

Don't want to update manually, so will just wait and watch, when the update arrives.

deya · 06. Jan 2018, 02:07 PM

Best way with updates, I'm not keen on manually updating either. Prefer to get them through the proper channel to be sure. I'm sure they'll turn up sooner rather than later

Jojo Yee · 07. Jan 2018, 01:49 AM

Already applied the latest KB4056892 (OS Build 16299.192) through Windows Update, which includes security updates to Windows Kernel, etc.

05. Jan 2018, 06:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
Anupam Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 15,338	No updates for me on either the desktop or my old laptop. I thought it might be due to Avast antivirus, but Avast have already released the mini-update to be compatible with the MS update. I am wondering where is the update The Intel tool shows my desktop as vulnerable, but gives an error when run on the laptop. __________________ Anupam

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Anupam Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 15,338	Can't leave my desktop running, because of the voltage issue, otherwise it kept running all day. Nowadays I am using the laptop more, so it keeps running through the day. Manually checked for update too... none yet. Don't want to update manually, so will just wait and watch, when the update arrives. __________________ Anupam

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04. Jan 2018, 11:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	MC; that screen shot is the Intel-SA-00086 Detection Tool? I downloaded it and ran it on my laptop with the Intel processor and got the same result as you, 'This system is not vulnerable' - this was after the laptop got KB4056892 via WU this evening. I then downloaded and ran it on my system with the AMD processor (not Intel) and again got the same result. It names the processor as AMD, so I'm assuming this is correct? Just trying to clarify. Anyway, both machines are patched now but same again, after re-starting the laptop CPU usage from .NET Runtime Optimization Service was very high and for quite some time. After it settled down I re-started the machine and everything was fine. Using it, I don't see any performance issues, at least for how I use it, I'm not a gamer or anything so it doesn't get that much hammer.

05. Jan 2018, 09:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Cheers guys, still some confusion then. satrow says what I was thinking, and MC says what I was hoping The water's still too cloudy at the moment regarding this issue so it's a case of apply the updates then watch and wait.

05. Jan 2018, 11:55 PM	#17 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Leave them powered up and keep checking manually for updates, that usually works. Failing that, there's always the update catalogue and install them that way. Surely it won't be too long until you get them if they're so important. Have you tried disabling your AV and trying that way?

06. Jan 2018, 02:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Best way with updates, I'm not keen on manually updating either. Prefer to get them through the proper channel to be sure. I'm sure they'll turn up sooner rather than later

07. Jan 2018, 01:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jojo Yee Maestro di Search Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7,948	Already applied the latest KB4056892 (OS Build 16299.192) through Windows Update, which includes security updates to Windows Kernel, etc.