Cannot install some of chromium browsers

leftover · 01. Mar 2019, 03:01 PM

Hello everyone

I have chromium based browsers on my PC : Vivaldi (main) and Chromium.
I updated the Chromium to the latest version (Chrome 72 I believe), suddenly it didn't work anymore. Blank page, not responding on its first load.
I tried another chrome based browser, Brave and Comodo Dragon, still I got the same issue.
Disabling Avast and Privatefirewall gave me no luck.

Strange, I had no such problem with any chrome based browsers before. Google Chrome works though, but I don't want to use Google Chrome.
I wonder what caused this? Any chance chromium browsers, other than Google Chrome, conflict with Vivaldi?

Win 7 SP1, only Avast, Privatefirewall, and Win Patrol running.

Thanks in advance

leftover · 01. Mar 2019, 04:48 PM

hi guys

I think I've found the answer
by adding --disable-gpu behind the app shortcut
\AppData\Local\Kinza\Application\kinza.exe --disable-gpu
(I'm trying it on a Japanese Chrome)
then turning off the hardware acceleration thing on setting
Now the browser can load normally

I though Avast caused this because the browser loaded normally on win safe mode and Avast blocking Chrome competitors because Avast promoted Google Chrome

I still don't know why suddenly this GPU and acceleration caused problem on Chrome. All my drivers are updated

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by leftover

Hello everyone

I have chromium based browsers on my PC : Vivaldi (main) and Chromium.
I updated the Chromium to the latest version (Chrome 72 I believe), suddenly it didn't work anymore. Blank page, not responding on its first load.
I tried another chrome based browser, Brave and Comodo Dragon, still I got the same issue.
Disabling Avast and Privatefirewall gave me no luck.

Strange, I had no such problem with any chrome based browsers before. Google Chrome works though, but I don't want to use Google Chrome.
I wonder what caused this? Any chance chromium browsers, other than Google Chrome, conflict with Vivaldi?

Win 7 SP1, only Avast, Privatefirewall, and Win Patrol running.

Thanks in advance

Anupam · 02. Mar 2019, 07:18 AM

Good to know the problem was solved. And thanks for letting us know the solution.

deya · 02. Mar 2019, 05:22 PM

"....a Japanese Chrome" brings the image of a Hayabusa or similar to mind

Nice to see someone else trying it though, and Kinza is a good browser. But like some other Chrome forks it does weigh in at quite a heavy install - Yandex is another, and they do tend to take up quite a lot of resources when loading. Disabling Hardware Acceleration can help the browser load and run smoother on some systems. I'm not sure, but I think the graphics card installed on the system combined with Hardware Acceleration enabled can cause the issue that leftover has described and if the drivers are up to date that could be the cause of it. But as I say, I'm not sure.

Maybe try one of the lighter Chrome forks out there? ... something like Slimjet or Cent perhaps, and see if the problem persists. It just seems strange that you never had the problem before.

I think, compared to a few years ago, most browsers are quite resource hungry these days anyway, and then add in all the extensions people install in the browser. I think developers expect everyone to be using a system with lots of RAM and CPU available but that's not the case, I'm sure. Probably the reason that lots of people stick to older versions of browsers that don't demand so much from the system?

leftover · 11. Mar 2019, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deya

"....a Japanese Chrome" brings the image of a Hayabusa or similar to mind

Nice to see someone else trying it though, and Kinza is a good browser. But like some other Chrome forks it does weigh in at quite a heavy install - Yandex is another, and they do tend to take up quite a lot of resources when loading. Disabling Hardware Acceleration can help the browser load and run smoother on some systems. I'm not sure, but I think the graphics card installed on the system combined with Hardware Acceleration enabled can cause the issue that leftover has described and if the drivers are up to date that could be the cause of it. But as I say, I'm not sure.

Maybe try one of the lighter Chrome forks out there? ... something like Slimjet or Cent perhaps, and see if the problem persists. It just seems strange that you never had the problem before.

I think, compared to a few years ago, most browsers are quite resource hungry these days anyway, and then add in all the extensions people install in the browser. I think developers expect everyone to be using a system with lots of RAM and CPU available but that's not the case, I'm sure. Probably the reason that lots of people stick to older versions of browsers that don't demand so much from the system?

Thanks for the reply.
I'm back using Chromium stable. Kinza is interesting browser, the forum is Japanese though, I don't speak Japanese that well

I guess there is problem between Win7 either 32 or 64bit and Chrome browsers, I found the same problem people got. Disabling GPU and hardware acceleration does help. Not sure whether the problem exists on Win10.
It's just my 2nd browser though, for VPN etc, my main is still Vivaldi. Love it.
The major problem with Vivaldi for me is its bookmark management. They should separate main bookmark and bookmark toolbar, like Opera.

deya · 11. Mar 2019, 07:27 PM

Maybe it is a Win7 issue then. I've never had a Chrome browser not work on Win10 although as I said, on or two do take a fraction longer to load.

Regarding Kinza, there is a new site page for English speaking users;

https://bbs-en.kinza.jp/categories

It's in its infancy so not much there at the moment. You can report bugs and make requests about the browser, though.

01. Mar 2019, 03:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
leftover Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12	Cannot install some of chromium browsers Hello everyone I have chromium based browsers on my PC : Vivaldi (main) and Chromium. I updated the Chromium to the latest version (Chrome 72 I believe), suddenly it didn't work anymore. Blank page, not responding on its first load. I tried another chrome based browser, Brave and Comodo Dragon, still I got the same issue. Disabling Avast and Privatefirewall gave me no luck. Strange, I had no such problem with any chrome based browsers before. Google Chrome works though, but I don't want to use Google Chrome. I wonder what caused this? Any chance chromium browsers, other than Google Chrome, conflict with Vivaldi? Win 7 SP1, only Avast, Privatefirewall, and Win Patrol running. Thanks in advance

02. Mar 2019, 07:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Anupam Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 15,257	Good to know the problem was solved. And thanks for letting us know the solution. __________________ Anupam

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02. Mar 2019, 05:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,453	"....a Japanese Chrome" brings the image of a Hayabusa or similar to mind Nice to see someone else trying it though, and Kinza is a good browser. But like some other Chrome forks it does weigh in at quite a heavy install - Yandex is another, and they do tend to take up quite a lot of resources when loading. Disabling Hardware Acceleration can help the browser load and run smoother on some systems. I'm not sure, but I think the graphics card installed on the system combined with Hardware Acceleration enabled can cause the issue that leftover has described and if the drivers are up to date that could be the cause of it. But as I say, I'm not sure. Maybe try one of the lighter Chrome forks out there? ... something like Slimjet or Cent perhaps, and see if the problem persists. It just seems strange that you never had the problem before. I think, compared to a few years ago, most browsers are quite resource hungry these days anyway, and then add in all the extensions people install in the browser. I think developers expect everyone to be using a system with lots of RAM and CPU available but that's not the case, I'm sure. Probably the reason that lots of people stick to older versions of browsers that don't demand so much from the system?

11. Mar 2019, 07:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,453	Maybe it is a Win7 issue then. I've never had a Chrome browser not work on Win10 although as I said, on or two do take a fraction longer to load. Regarding Kinza, there is a new site page for English speaking users; https://bbs-en.kinza.jp/categories It's in its infancy so not much there at the moment. You can report bugs and make requests about the browser, though.