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Old 16. Jun 2009, 11:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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George

thank you, thank you, thank you

I was so lost. This puts things into perspective.

I agree with you. I will do this localy first.

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Old 19. Jun 2009, 03:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Default I have installe xampp

Ok I installed xampp.

Its was so much easier to do in linux but also managed to install it on my windows too.

I downloaded wordpress and tried to access mysql. I keep getting an error on line 28 which is my DB host name. Any suggestions? I tried my localhost no joy.
Meanwhile I will still try to solve this problem on my own.

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Old 19. Jun 2009, 02:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You have to make sure first that you start the Apache and MySQL server. You can do that in the Xampp Control Panel. It should look like this after that:



Your aplications need to access your database via hostname, username and password. The Xampp default ist 'localhost', 'root', '' (no password). Standard port is 3306. If you haven't changed it you don't need to specify.

I haven't worked with Wordpress yet. Are you running an installation script to install it when the error occurs?
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Hi George

Yes I have both apache and mysql running I use fireftp so I dont need fillezilla.
When I click on apache admin it launches my browser and I then have access to my phpadmin. All seem to work fine. I am using wordpress because I have no Idea how to put together a website from scratch so I thought I could use the templates provided with wordpress.

What Im trying to do is build a site locally but haven't figured out how to build my tables (I believe they are called) If I had a templete I could use that as way to get started. I have much to learn

The documentation in wordpress assumes the user has experience with this stuff....not real good for beginners.

I would like to know how to install a template to mySQL db via my local host and then see the resulting webpage from there I think I will be able to see how all the nuts and bolts go together.
I am sorry I know I sound like a super nubie.
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As I said, I don't know Wordpress.

But if you want to use a framework for building a website why don't you go with Joomla. It is a very good CMS and easy to install. The installation also creates all tables for you.

Download Joomla here: http://www.joomla.org/

Create a folder in you Xampp htdocs folder. Then extract the Joomla files in there. Let's say you called the folder '..\xampp\htdocs\mysite', than after copying the Joomla files in there go to your browser and point to
http://localhost/mysite

The Joomla installation routine will start automatically. There is also a lot of Joomla documentation available.
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As I said, I don't know Wordpress.

But if you want to use a framework for building a website why don't you go with Joomla. It is a very good CMS and easy to install. The installation also creates all tables for you.

Download Joomla here: http://www.joomla.org/

Create a folder in you Xampp htdocs folder. Then extract the Joomla files in there. Let's say you called the folder '..\xampp\htdocs\mysite', than after copying the Joomla files in there go to your browser and point to
http://localhost/mysite

The Joomla installation routine will start automatically. There is also a lot of Joomla documentation available.
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George

you are now my hero.

I did as you said above. EUREKA

I know my questions may seem rudimentary to someone with experience. But I could not understand how to install wordpress by editing the config php files.
(it just wouldn't work)
I did manage to install xampp and create my database but got stuck with wordpress. I have noticed the language used with these programs mimics that which I am dealing with as I learn the linux command line. I will try to keep this is mind as I forge ahead.

PS: Been playing around with joomla for about 15 minutes and I can tell I am really going to like it.
again thanks

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Well I might have to eat my words. It maybe my lack of know how, but what I see is a website builder that's more interested in advertising their product than making a personal website. Anyone ever use joomla? Am I explaining this accurately.

Wordpress is pretty straight forward. Lots of templates that allow the user to modify to their hearts content. Also doesn't try to advertise their software on your front page.
I'm still exploring the inner workings and will update my experiences

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Joomla is a Content Management System. The initial installation comes with a complete set of articles and menus to show what's possible. You can easily change or delete the articles you don't need. I find it ok that Joomla promotes itself on its default installation. Once you get the hang of it you can do nearly everything with it. Don't give up so easy.

But of course, if you like Wordpress better go with it. It is your website, your design. Use what you like best. It's all about fun and feeling good about it in the end.
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Again it maybe my inexperience.

I see how to clear the page. But it appears I have to choose two items that remain associated with joomla. Again I'm still playing around with the program. Reading up on things as I go.
Regardless there is a steep learning curve for the newbies.

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Your problem is not inexperience, but lack of a target. Unless you know what you are trying to achieve, then it it is quite impossible to achieve it.

What sort of website do you want? Are you wanting to offer people useful content? A family website? Or are you just playing around in order to learn how things work?

With all due respect to the previous posters, Joomla is not a good software packet for a beginner, and Wordpress is basically a publishing software with the emphasis on Blogging. You CAN use it for other things, but only if you have some idea of what you are doing, and what you actually want to achieve.

Ease of installing and operating these things varies considerably, and there are dozens ( probably actually hundreds if you count them all) of CMS and similar systems which all have various advantages and drawbacks.

They all have the same problem though, that unless you know what you want to do with them, they are largely useless.

If you are merely interested in discovering how these things work, then you have to install them and play around with them. This will however quickly become boring and frustrating unless you have some structure in your operations, and either a specific general target, or a set of targets.

Learning curves for various systems and targets vary a great deal, but without some specific targets you just waste a lot of time in aimless wandering and don't learn much either.

Another problem here, is failure to understand the terminology involved, which causes mistakes and misunderstandings. Many systems install themselves with scripts in some form of default configuration. You don' t actually have to do anything much at all,the script does it for you. You do need to know the basic parameters of the target system, ( The server where you are going to install it), and the parameters required by the software. If you don't understand a particular parameter, then of course you can ask.

Make a basic plan of what you want to do before you start trying any software at all. This also makes it far easier for people with knowledge on the matter to answer your questions without having to write very long explanatory articles about things.

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