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Old 24. Mar 2009, 01:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best free webhost ??

Are there any good ones?

If we get enough nominations we could start a page on the site.

Try to give some sort of details if you can -- maybe if they have ads, do they provide a MySQL DB, etc.

Here's one:

www .000webhost.com
No ads, donation-based. Has MySQL DBs. Monster disk space and bandwidth (100GB), cPanel, phpMyAdmin etc.
I'm trying to work out what the catch is. A quick check shows they have connections in Dallas TX, Santa Cruz CA, Cleveland OH and Mexico. I think I'd want to see the IP of a typical site on one of their servers first, to check the location. One server IP shows up in Cleveland, that's fine. You might not want to be hosted in Mx though if your audience is in the US.
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Old 05. Apr 2009, 03:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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OK, I put a site on the free 000webhost to try it out. Got some interesting info too.

They are one of the biggest hosts on the Net. Another branch of the company is Hosting24, the paid version, and the backbone is supplied by Dreamhost. Various geoip resources show the server as being in San Fran or Vegas - but YouGetSignal has the most up to date online IP database I know, and they put it in Vegas (DNSstuff as well, of course, but I like watching the YGS visual traceroute).

Free hosted packages are on servers with a lot of sites. A whole lot. Here, they have a paid upgrade that moves you onto a server with 300. This is around the normal shared hosting figure, you'd pay £20 - £60 ($30 - $90) a year for this level of service. A host with slightly less, say 200 sites per server, would maybe charge at the top end of this.

Quality shared hosting providers keep the maximum number of sites per server to 50 - but you have to pay for this service level, obviously. You can find it at around £120 / $200 a year.

You can easily see the difference it makes to a database-driven website - the pages load faster and sharper with lower numbers of sites on a server. There is a clear difference in the page load speed for a CMS, blog or ecommerce site on a 50-site server compared to a 200-site server. And 300 site servers also show a further difference - so the graph is started to steepen here.

000webhost tell you they may have up to 30,000 sites per server. Well, I found the catch, then! The largest number I've seen before was 3,400 on a popular US economy host, via a reverse IP check for a known site. We'll have to see how it works out...

The first problem I've found is they run the weird virtual path to root system that 1&1 do, where the webroot's physical location is not the same as the filepath. This creates a lot of problems with SEF URLs and htaccess scripts. I never had to work with this before as I simply refused, the site was moved instead Now, I'm gonna try and sort it, for a laugh. Major headache, gotta tell you - can't get WordPress to function at all. Oh well.
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Hey chris.p, did you use the free sub-domain option that they recommend? I don't know if you notice this but their sub-domain seems to change over time (a few months ago, their sub-domain was not .netti.net, it was something else), is it safe? Another question, could you do a test/review for http://www.freewebhostingarea.com/ and http://www.zymic.com/free-web-hosting/ if you have time?

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OK, I didn't get a subdomain on their domain, because I already had a spare domain to use.

You don't want to use a subdomain if you can avoid it, there are a lot of negatives. You certainly don't want to use one if you have a commercial site of any kind, but it's maybe OK for home pages and stuff.

That's because you don't own it in any way, so you can't take anything with you if / when you leave (and all sites move at some stage). You get yourname.netti.net or whatever for free - but actually it will cost you money. Aren't you going to get any links? They will all vaporise when you move - all gone. Basically all you are doing is building up those people's site for them

Buy your own domain, it's only $9 a year or something. Get a .com, unless you really don't care about commercial stuff like earning any money, getting search traffic, or whatever. In that case you could get a .info or something, @ 99 cents a year. OK for a family site, not a commercial one. Only a .com or your national version should be used for that.

The 000webhost test is not coming along too well as I can't get WordPress to work on their site, or get access to the forum to ask why. And email is really, really terrible there. Remember, if you have yoursite.com with them, your email goes through them as well. And right now it don't.

So it could be that I'll be looking closely at one of those ones you suggest, fairly soon. Don't really want adverts on my pages so I'll see if either is ad-free first, and maybe go with that one.


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This is an advert-supported service, ie they run ads on your pages. These can be removed with an upgrade, only $1 per month. This will be needed on any serious site. Also they have more restrictions than 000webhost.

The server I checked was in Dallas TX.

It is a good set up though, and will suit private, non-commercial site owners. Large webspace and very high bandwidth alowance (up to 5GB per day and more allowable if needed), 1 database provided. Choice of servers with register_globals on or off - suits various dynamic sites, reg globals ON may be needed for old apps.

Their ToS infers that they basically own all your content and can use it how they wish, which is OK for private sites I guess.

There is a max filesize of 10MB, so they won't need to worry about you serving streaming media or anything like that. Hard to see how you'd burn 150GB a month bandwidth!

The FWHA front page is a scruffy homebuilt job that doesn't give confidence, but it's an el cheapo service I guess.

I didn't get an account here to test it out because (a) I don't want their ads on my pages, and (b), the next on the list, Zymic, looks far more attractive.
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Quit a lot of blog templates look more like websites than blogs these days. Wordpress.com is one of the best. If not thé best, actually. And unlike Wordpress.org all hosting is totally free. Link: http://wordpress.com/

I do realize that cris.p's description sounds more ambitious, however...
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I knew that would be your reaction after visiting Freewebhostingarea.com since that's what made me decided on NOT using it. Anyways, look foward to Zymic's review. They even have a contest giving cash prizes and free domains. Not so sure whether it's free forever or anything.
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Yup, might try and move the site today - that's if I can get it off out of 000webhost, that is. Would stay there but virtual webroot path + lousy email mean it's time to move on.


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Wordpress hosted sites are OK for some users - maybe people who think they will never move, or people with a blog promoting their main site.

There are problems with restrictions though. I heard you can't use your own choice of plugins and so on. That would be no good, all DB-driven sites function 50% with plugins now. For example on WP I would want to use the Platinum search engine optimization Pack, don't know if I could run without that.

But the big negative for me is the fact you own nothing, it's all on someone else's site. To me, subdomain sites are a total waste of time. OK for family home pages etc, but not for any kind of site where you will invest any time or money. What's the point? Get a cheap domain and a free host, surely that is 10 times better. Or a good domain and a good host, another factor-10 improvement. Depends on how you value your site, subdomain sites are disposable.

You can buy a real domain for 99cents, and get free hosting. No contest. I can't recommend a .info domain etc, but even that's better than a subdomain.
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OK, an update on Zymic.

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Their hosting is provided by LunarPages.

I found how to set up a full domain name, and their nameserver addresses, which you need for that.

However, currently they don't allow htaccess files, so you can't use any form of SEF URLs (human-friendly / search engine friendly). Again, this will stop anyone with a normal database-driven site using this service. An htaccess file performs several vital functions on a site, including security, SEF URLs, redirects and so on. No htaccess file >> no dynamic site (one using a database).

Their support forum looks reasonable, though it takes a long time to get an answer.

It looks as if you have to pay to get email.
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Yes, unbelievably there is no email facility. You have to upgrade, ie pay, to get that.

So this host will suit people with a flat HTML site, ie one with standard web pages, but not anyone with a CMS, blog, forum, ecommerce etc - as you can't use an htaccess file, which is a basic feature of web hosting and vital for all DB-driven sites.
You will need a Hotmail address.
You can never get any page names wrong or change them later, since there is no way to do a redirect here (except by meta-refresh, which should be avoided).

I haven't managed to get a site working here yet as I only use DB-based sites now, and this won't work properly here.

So hit me with some more names, dude
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Last year I ran across this site, which lists free webhosts and their features. Seemed like they gave a lot of good info, but I do not know anything about that area. Hope it is of some help to you.
This is the sites listed in best rating top to bottom
http://www.free-webhosts.com/search-...s.php?ORDER=17
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