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Old 01. Aug 2018, 01:36 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Changes in v5.45 and your feedback;

https://forum.piriform.com/topic/523...your-feedback/
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Old 05. Aug 2018, 06:07 PM   #42 (permalink)
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"we have removed v5.45 and reverted to v5.44 as the main download for CCleaner" ;

https://forum.piriform.com/topic/523...comment-298509

Bit late posting this, but it seems they relented and withdrew the latest version.
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Old 05. Aug 2018, 07:49 PM   #43 (permalink)
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deya, as always thank you for the links.

Surprising move by them. Seems like the backlash was quite hard, which forced them to revert back to the previous version. I don't get what changes will they do in the next version... it was over my head.

BTW, I uninstalled the 5.45 version, but I am unable to download the 5.44 from their builds link (the one i posted), or from the link in their forum.

But lately, it seems like this is becoming a common thing with these big companies. They make mistakes, and when they receive hard criticism from the public about it, they come forward and say sorry. Has happened with Apple, Facebook, etc etc.

Recently happened with Google in India. Several people, including myself noted two new numbers on their phone which were not added by them. One was a helpline number of Aadhar scheme, which provides unique identification for each citizen of India. The number was wrong though. After backlash for the Aadhar authority on social media, they clarified that the number was not added by them or the government. The cellular companies too said they didn't do it. Google then did an internal check, and found that they were the ones responsible.. loading these numbers in India for OEM build, like Android One on Nokia phones. So, they issued an apology recently.

All these shows that companies for their own sake, and money, are increasingly resorting to wrong practices for which they have to pay later.
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Old 05. Aug 2018, 10:01 PM   #44 (permalink)
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BTW, I uninstalled the 5.45 version, but I am unable to download the 5.44 from their builds link (the one i posted), or from the link in their forum.
Anupam, does this help?
https://filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
https://ccleaner.en.uptodown.com/windows/old
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Old 06. Aug 2018, 02:23 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Thanks EldonW for the links .

I was able to download the slim version of CCleaner from its official build page.
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Old 06. Aug 2018, 03:27 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Well they over stepped the mark that's for sure, Anupam, but some of their users kicked up quite a fuss about it and rightly so. It's good to see they took note of it and, eventually, reverted back to the previous version. They say it will take weeks to rectify the changes and put right the wrongs, but it seems they've shot themselves in the foot somewhat - maybe they'll lose paying customers over it. But they should have been upfront about it from the start, and given people the option to opt in. No one to blame but themselves.

The shame of it is that CCleaner has been a decent program in the past, one that has never really caused me any issues - not to say I haven't made a slight mistake or two while using it because I have, but nothing major and the fault was mine. You have to learn to use it properly but it's a program I've been happy enough to recommend to others, same as it's recommended on this site. It's never been an aggresive cleaner, unlike some others that do a similar thing.

For sure, there are alternatives - and I've tried a couple. But with those you have to pay way more attention to what you're doing with them than CCleaner. At least, that's my experience.

If you look at the downloads on the site that EldonW has linked to, you can see the file size growing over the past few months. It's not far off doubled, so they've obviously added something to it along the way. It's why I've stayed with an older, portable version which, by the way, if you search the same site EldonW linked to you'll find many more versions of portable CCleaner from way back. I'd say it's better to use one of those for now at least, until (or if) they sort out just how they're going to go about collecting user data- and they surely will be collecting it in the future because Avast will want a return on their investment. I still think that's why they bought it, the potential for gathering user data. It doesn't matter what Piriform say now, they cashed in, it's not their company anymore.
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Old 06. Aug 2018, 07:11 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Yes deya, no one to blame but themselves. I don't think it should take weeks for them to rectify it, in terms of code change, but I think they will need the time to think how to go about it, what they want to achieve, so as to get information out, and also pacify the users. That's why they need time.

deya, you are right, it's a shame they are doing this to CCleaner, which is by far the safest and easiest to use cleaner. It's what I would recommend even to a general user, provided they stay away from registry cleaner, and other parts they don't understand, and just stick to cleaning the junk. I also find its Startup tool quite useful to enable/disable/delete startup entries. It's pretty simple and efficient.

Really, I hate when companies buy such good products and turn them into trash.

I have reverted to 5.44 for now. Let's see what they come up with next
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Old 07. Aug 2018, 07:26 AM   #48 (permalink)
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They say it will take weeks to rectify the changes and put right the wrongs, but it seems they've shot themselves in the foot somewhat
They are lying. All Avast has to do is replace the latest version with the previous- it's not like the previous version has disappeared into oblivion.
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If you look at the downloads on the site that EldonW has linked to, you can see the file size growing over the past few months. It's not far off doubled, so they've obviously added something to it along the way.
That's because both 32-bit and 64-bit installers are included.
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Old 07. Aug 2018, 10:19 AM   #50 (permalink)
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That probably explains it, the 32 and 64 bit installers included, didn't consider that. As for the lying, I agree, they'll just be using some corporate jargon to mask it - no more than others in their field these days I suppose, or in other walks of life. Not a good way to run a business though, and I'd never condone it. It's bad practice.

Without the recent telemetry addition it still does a good enough job, for me, so I still use it. There is one, one that I've been trying over the past couple of weeks, that might be a decent alternative but I've not used it enough to fully trust it yet. I'd like to be rid of CCleaner eventually though, but then I said that about WOT and here I am, still using it
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