Gizmos Freeware Reviews  

Go Back   Gizmo's Freeware Forum > Debating Chamber > System

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 13. Aug 2015, 08:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Anupam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: India
Posts: 15,275
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe A.TT View Post
In Windows 10, there is no setting to completely disable the sending of data from your computer to Microsoft. When you go to Settings→Privacy→Feedback & diagnostics and look at the right pane under Diagnostic and usage data you would see that the absolute lowest option you can select is Basic.
I too noticed this, and selected Basic. Seems like we cannot turn everything off.

Did you go for the registry edit Joe?
__________________
Anupam
Anupam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13. Aug 2015, 10:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,028
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anupam View Post
Did you go for the registry edit Joe?
No, I haven't, at least not yet. As you can see from the Ars Technica article, researchers are still trying to find out just what is being collected and how it is sent. I am fairly certain that whether Microsoft is cooperative or not, they will eventually find this out. If and when I decide to do anything about it I want to be certain of what I'm about.
Joe A.TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14. Aug 2015, 08:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Anupam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: India
Posts: 15,275
Default

Yes, I read that article. I too won't be doing the registry edit. Also, it seems personal stuff is not being sent, so I guess I am okay with it.

Although, I must say that there is too much of privacy invasion in Windows 10, and all are opt-in by default, which doesn't seem right to me.
__________________
Anupam
Anupam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14. Aug 2015, 02:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,028
Default

Well, the following are quoted from Microsoft's FAQ on feedback and diagnostics.

Quote:
What do the different Diagnostic and usage data options mean?

As you use Windows, we collect performance and usage information that helps us identify and troubleshoot problems as well as improve our products and services. We recommend that you select Full for this setting.
  • Basic information is data that is vital to the operation of Windows. This data helps keep Windows and apps running properly by letting Microsoft know the capabilities of your device, what is installed, and whether Windows is operating correctly. This option also turns on basic error reporting back to Microsoft. If you select this option, we’ll be able to provide updates to Windows (through Windows Update, including malicious software protection by the Malicious Software Removal Tool), but some apps and features may not work correctly or at all.
Quote:
Who sees the diagnostic and usage information that’s collected through feedback and diagnostics?

Microsoft employees, contractors, vendors, and partners might be provided access to relevant portions of the information collected, but they’re only permitted to use the information to repair or improve Microsoft products and services, or third party software and hardware designed for use with Microsoft products and services.
More... http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...cs-privacy-faq

Personally, I still feel aggrieved by the absence of an option to completely refuse the collection of data. I believe users have a fundamental right to share or not share whatever is on their machines. When users are backed into a corner that is when they feel they owe it to themselves to resist. In this case, I certainly cannot blame anyone for wanting to circumvent Microsoft's data collection policies.
Joe A.TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14. Aug 2015, 02:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Anupam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: India
Posts: 15,275
Default

I agree with you Joe.
__________________
Anupam
Anupam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15. Aug 2015, 02:48 PM   #26 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 549
Default

Quote:
but they’re only permitted to use the information to repair or improve Microsoft products and services, or third party software and hardware designed for use with Microsoft products and services.
Once seen.........
Burn-IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15. Aug 2015, 03:41 PM   #27 (permalink)
Senior Edtor
 
v.laurie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,380
Default

I have no special insight into the thinking at Microsoft but my experience with them over the years suggests to me that the corporate thinking goes something like this:
1. Microsoft is offering you a nice new operating system for free.
2. Nobody is forcing you to take the offer.
3. If you do decide to take the offer, there are some conditions. If you do not like the conditions, you can refuse the offer.
4. Developing Windows 10 cost the company a lot of money. Microsoft is not a charity and to recover those costs+ some profit, Microsoft will gather information that will help us sell you things. Nobody forces you to buy the stuff we or advertisers are going to show you.
__________________
Vic
v.laurie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15. Aug 2015, 04:58 PM   #28 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,028
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by v.laurie View Post
I have no special insight into the thinking at Microsoft but my experience with them over the years suggests to me that the corporate thinking goes something like this:
1. Microsoft is offering you a nice new operating system for free.
2. Nobody is forcing you to take the offer.
3. If you do decide to take the offer, there are some conditions. If you do not like the conditions, you can refuse the offer.
4. Developing Windows 10 cost the company a lot of money. Microsoft is not a charity and to recover those costs+ some profit, Microsoft will gather information that will help us sell you things. Nobody forces you to buy the stuff we or advertisers are going to show you.
If that is the case I hope they factored that into their projection of 1 billion Windows 10 devices in 2 -3 years. By making such an announcement they have placed themselves in "must succeed" situation and heads will roll if they don't make that target. I hope they understand that as well and don't engage in practices that may prove inimical to their collective heads.

Personally, I am not averse to reverting to my system if I find Microsoft is being overly invasive. I'm sure many feel the same.
Joe A.TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15. Aug 2015, 06:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Anupam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: India
Posts: 15,275
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe A.TT View Post
Personally, I am not averse to reverting to my system if I find Microsoft is being overly invasive. I'm sure many feel the same.
I wouldn't want to do that, but who knows, I may, if I find it all too invasive. Honestly, since Windows 10 has come out with articles saying how Windows 10 still sends out data even when settings have been changed, I am getting a bit paranoid. I now sometimes feel that maybe I should go back to Windows 8... I like it better than Windows 10 anyways.
__________________
Anupam
Anupam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16. Aug 2015, 12:10 AM   #30 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 549
Default

The question you have to ask yourself (punk??) is
Did Windows 8 send similar stuff back and they just didn't tell??
Burn-IT is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.