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Old 20. Mar 2015, 07:03 AM   #41 (permalink)
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From the Neowin link:

"This move seems counterproductive though, or rather self-sabotaging. If the company’s goal was to re-engage users and make sure everyone was running the same codebase then what’s the point in differentiating between licensed and unlicensed? Unless, of course, unlicensed versions will have other limitations. But this might result in pirates still opting to hack the OS to remove those limitations which brings us full circle".

For me this still revolves around updates. If pirated machines are to be refused updates (or have to pay for them which will have the same result) there will still be zillions of unpatched systems spreading exploits as they do now, so nothing beneficial will have been accomplished.
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Old 20. Mar 2015, 11:50 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I would have thought that many of those pirating Windows OS's were "doing it properly" i.e. by fooling MS into seeing it as a genuine copy thereby being able to receive all the updates and use it without limitations.
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I would have thought that many of those pirating Windows OS's were "doing it properly" i.e. by fooling MS into seeing it as a genuine copy thereby being able to receive all the updates and use it without limitations.
Piracy is a huge problem here with everything, not just Windows. False Gillette products are an ongoing issue especially if you expect to get more than one shave out of a blade.

I see tons of pirated XP and 7 machines and no matter what the source, the majority of users believe disabling updates will prevent Microsoft from recognizing their system, so it's the first thing they do after switching off UAC.
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the majority of users believe disabling updates will prevent Microsoft from recognizing their system, so it's the first thing they do after switching off UAC.
Guess I'm guilty of severely overestimating the ingenuity of the average pirate!
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Guess I'm guilty of severely overestimating the ingenuity of the average pirate!
I think "sheep" is a term used too frequently and often unfairly, but there is definitely a herd factor in play. Someone writes on the web that disabling updates will render your rogue system untouchable and immediately 20 million folks switch 'em off, irrespective.

My wife encountered this recently when she obtained her first smartphone (LG Optimus Dual) after her Samsung flip phone finally gave up the Ghost. A ton of people she works with insisted she must have WhatsApp even though her plan provides for unlimited SMS messages for free! Never mind this, they screamed, you must have it because everyone else does. No doubt the fact Facebook was spending 19 billion to buy this (and why) completely eluded them.

http://rational.pdimension.net/2012/...t-of-whatsapp/

Did someone say sheep?
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Old 21. Mar 2015, 08:06 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Microsoft lawyers are adding qualifiers to the "free" upgrade. See this article, Microsoft's obsession with piracy threatens to create a Windows 10 licensing mess
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Microsoft lawyers are adding qualifiers to the "free" upgrade. See this article, Microsoft's obsession with piracy threatens to create a Windows 10 licensing mess
Excellent article. Thanks Vic.
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This type of confusion exists in many companies where rivalry between departments (or sometimes outright war) sees rank being pulled after decisions have already been made and implemented by a lesser source.

I'm unsure of the situation in other countries, but here in Brazil the most widely available pirated copy of Windows 7 contains all x32 and x64 bit versions of the OS from Starter through to Ultimate. Presumably therefore anyone who installed one of the excluded "business" versions could simply replace this with Home Premium and upgrade from that?

The threat of legal action will still apply of course and although owners of genuine systems might not like it, IMO Microsoft would have been better served in the long run by wiping the slate clean.
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Old 22. Mar 2015, 03:42 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Not really.
MS run the risk of having to supply the upgrade to every Tom,Dick, or Harry if they don't tie it down a bit.
"Look I bought a cheap illegal Windows 7 from Ebay for a dollar. Upgrade it to a genuine Windows 10 there's a good MS"
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sorry, I'm behind on the news but is this just another hype story until windows 10 comes out, or can we claim it already and try it out? So far I've found "test" versions for it from MS but I thought those were always free to test before.
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