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Old 30. Dec 2013, 02:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Method of Shutdown in Windows 8.1 makes a difference

Did anyone notice in Windows 8.1 there's a difference between shutting down in the following ways:
  • Right-click on the new Windows icon in the taskbar and choose Shutdown. (You can also use the keyboard shortcut Windows Key + X to bring up the Quick Menu).
  • Bring up the Charms bar and click Power-->Shutdown.
The first method is a Full Shutdown,whereas the second is a Hybrid Shutdown. The second way also enables Fast Startup in Windows.

In my own case it takes about 31 seconds to boot the lock screen if I use the first method, whereas the second method takes around 11 seconds.

Some discussion in this can be found on this Microsoft thread.
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Old 30. Dec 2013, 02:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The fast shutdown maintains a low-power state. Windows now has a series of power states, viz, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=vs.85).aspx
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Old 30. Dec 2013, 10:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This behavior of hybrid shutdown could be changed from the settings in Windows 8, but now there is no such setting to disable the hybrid shutdown in Windows 8.1.

I had disabled hybrid shutdown in Windows 8. I always shut down from the Charms bar. So, it's always doing a hybrid shutdown? I don't want that... I don't want hibernation.

I think I will shutdown from the Start button now.

This sucks!
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Old 30. Dec 2013, 02:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A good find Joe. A shutdown via the Setting charm and a shutdown via the Start button make a difference by default, which is when the fast startup is turned on.

But when the fast startup is turned off, there will be no hybrid shutdown and a shutdown via the Settings charm will be the same as a shutdown via the Start button, in my tests on both the Windows 8.1 PC and tablet.

@Anupam, the fast startup can be tunred off in Windows 8.1 as follows:

From the Search charm, type "power buttons", then select "Change what the power buttons do" from the search result. This will pop up a System Settings window, under "Shutdown settings", you can uncheck "Turn on fast startup". (If this option is greyed out, click "Change settings that are currently unavailable" at the top to enable the option.)

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Old 30. Dec 2013, 03:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In a hybrid shutdown, the screen goes off in about 3-5 seconds, but the device takes about another 20 seconds to completely shut down. Total time taken: 25 seconds.

In a full shutdown, the screen goes off much later, only right before when the device completely shuts down, which takes about 10 seconds. Total time taken: 10 seconds.

So in fact, a full shutdown is actually faster than a hybrid shutdown if we consider a complete shutdown . This is my test, how about yours?
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Old 30. Dec 2013, 03:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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@Anupam, the fast startup can be tunred off in Windows 8.1 as follows:

From the Search charm, type "power buttons", then select "Change what the power buttons do" from the search result. This will pop up a System Settings window, under "Shutdown settings", you can uncheck "Turn on fast startup". (If this option is greyed out, click "Change settings that are currently unavailable" at the top to enable the option.)
I tried that, and I don't see any setting related to fast startup at all. Not even greyed out. I did click "Change settings that are currently unavailable".
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Old 30. Dec 2013, 04:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Same as this?

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Old 30. Dec 2013, 04:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes, same, but under Shutdown Settings, there are only Sleep and Lock checkboxes.

I remember that in Windows 8, I turned off fast startup, which saved the system state, and I had not wanted that.

It's strange why no such setting isn't being shown.
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Old 30. Dec 2013, 06:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Anupam, did you disable Hibernate like in this article? According to the Note under Option One, step 7 here, if you disabled Hibernate you will not see the Fast Startup option. If that's the case I think it's also logical that the Hibernate checkbox won't to show up.

Also, if there is no difference in shutdown time regardless of which method you use, I'd say Fast Startup/Hybrid Shutdown is disabled.

Some people appear to have issues with Fast Startup (as mentioned in the 2nd link above), but I'm curious - why don't you want Hibernation and Hybrid Shutdown on your system?
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Old 31. Dec 2013, 09:18 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Joe, thanks for the link. That thought did cross my mind yesterday, that I might have turned hibernation off, which is why that option is not appearing in the setting. It's just that I was not able to locate from where you can turn off hibernation.

I followed your link, and strangely, I don't see the hibernation option available there too . The sleep time is there, but none of the other two options of hybrid sleep and hibernate. Instead, there is a setting of allow wake timers. I am really confused.

Is there from somewhere else where hibernation can be turned off? I will try to look.

Meanwhile, I think with hibernation turned off most probably, my PC is doing the full shutdown from the charms bar too.

I just don't like the idea of hibernation. Also, another reason for shutting down hibernation is that if you set it up, then it requires some amount of hard disk to be preserved specially for that. I don't want that too.
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