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Old 13. Nov 2013, 04:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Windows XP update locks machine

Woody Leonhard at InfoWorld warns of XP update problem
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Old 13. Nov 2013, 04:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thankfully, I update manually and already had KB2879017 installed. Thanks for the link.
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Old 13. Nov 2013, 06:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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KB2879017 is already installed on my XP, installed it last month, 9th October 2013. Installed without issue via WU, custom install not auto. But the article seems to suggest the problem is linked to fresh XP installs, which mine isn't.

Just a side note. I installed some WU today on a Vista machine, seven of them, and after the re-boot it had wiped the Vista theme back to Windows Classic theme. Re-booted again, same thing, and Vista theme didn't show up in the options list. One of the updates seemed to have stopped the theme service running. Decided to try one more re-boot before manually re-starting the service and it worked, the Vista theme re-appeared in the options list. Re-set it back to Vista theme and all was well, and the theme service was set back to auto. This isn't a new problem either, it's been reported as happening in the past on some machines after installing Windows Updates.

Boring. It's little wonder that more people are exploring alternative Operating Systems these days.
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Old 13. Nov 2013, 09:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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My experience with : http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=353289

Yes my virtual machine is rather fresh (nothing installed other than Virtualbox Guest Additions), but I was already forced to manually installed KB2879017 last month, only to face the same issue this month.
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Old 13. Nov 2013, 10:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I never have problems doing Windows updates. Thats probably because I disable automatic updates and follow my own procedure on how to do them. I usually wait a few days after updates come out, then I visit the WU site. As a rule, I do updates a few at at a time. In some cases, I ll wait a few weeks before doing an specific update. For example, after Octobers updates came out, a lot of people had problems with update KB2862330. I installed that update three days ago in my W7 and a couple days ago in my XP.

Personally, I kind of like Microsoft but have to admit that they make some bad mistakes sometimes regarding updates and automatic updates. Last month, by mistake, they pushed the latest Net Framework for XP. If my computer had been set to update automatically, this update would have been downloaded and installed. I don't want or need that update. Its old and it should have not been available during October for the XP. After a couple of weeks, they corrected the error and that particular update was not offered anymore.

Thanks to Vics posting, I ll check my XP later on tonight and see if I have already installed or not KB2879017. And go from there.

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Personally, I kind of like Microsoft but have to admit that they make some bad mistakes sometimes regarding updates and automatic updates. Last month, by mistake, they pushed the latest Net Framework for XP. If my computer had been set to update automatically, this update would have been downloaded and installed. I don't want or need that update. Its old and it should have not been available during October for the XP. After a couple of weeks, they corrected the error and that particular update was not offered anymore.
Thanks for that info - I had wondered why I was seeing an old .NET version being removed.
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Old 14. Nov 2013, 01:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I thought MS quit issuing XP updates.
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Old 14. Nov 2013, 01:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I thought MS quit issuing XP updates.
There will be updates until April 8, 2014.
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Old 14. Nov 2013, 07:43 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for that info - I had wondered why I was seeing an old .NET version being removed.
I feel bad for people who got the update installed automatically.
http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft...problem-229062

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Old 14. Nov 2013, 09:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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All,

The .Net problem Bo mentioned above screwed up my MS automatic updates - I can't get anything updated either automatically or manually from MS, although I can update MSE daily because they have a separate site to download from directly.

The other updates have to go through the MS Update site and I can't get anything installed, unless there is a separate site for the other updates that I don't know about.

Anyway, I lost the BITS service after that .Net update and tried every remedy I could find to fix it. The automatic update service is listed and running, but not BITS, it's nowhere to be found and I can't get it back.

I ran across the Windows Updates Downloader recently and have 2 questions:

1. Is their list of critical update cumulative, in other words, is this list updates for just October (the latest date they have) or from the beginning of XP3?

I tried to find an answer on their forum, can't find anything...

2. If I'm having issues with update directly from MS, does WUD mitigate the update issues I'm having?

Does it bypass the normal download process?

Is this an obvious solution, or am I missing something?

Thanks...
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