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Old 15. Jul 2009, 05:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I use several browsers and three different OS. I do not trust online-services and want my bookmarks safe with me. So I use Netvisualize Favorites Organizer
http://www.netvisualize.com/index.html

It is a parilliant freeware, allowing you to organize a multitude of bookmark collections in a tree. Includes notes, im- and exporting, creating of thumbnails, and the paid-for-version even creates simple html-files. You can test the commercial version for thirty days, it will then simply change into the freeware version with really most of the functions still working. The difference is hardly noticeable. (I've got the commercial version, can't tell)

It is sure worth a mention on our site, so maybe the bookmark editor...
I'd love to see some free licenses of this appear - or for this to appear on http://giveawayoftheday.com or even http://bitsdujour.com

It's getting a little long in the tooth since the last update (January 14, 2005) and the previous update before that was in 2003. With no updates in over 4 years - it doesn't look like they are investing any time or money into taking "NetVisualize" any further.

There is no mention on the site about Vista compatibility or browsers such as Chrome, Safari or Opera. It sounds like to get bookmarks in our out - requires exporting your bookmarks to a generic Bookmarks.html file (from Netscape Navigator days).

$35 USD is a bit much for me to afford - but at about $15 or less it would be hard to ignore. Perhaps someone could organise a deal with them for a limited time - give us a voucher code to use for a hefty discount on professional licenses.

I've got other utilities to do everything except the reorganisation of my bookmarks (with Thumbnails - to help my memory). So if anyone knows of a (preferably free) tool to organise about 6,000 bookmarks, simply (drag and drop?), and thumbnail representations of the website, I'd love to hear about it.

My turn to share - If you use Firefox there are a bunch of very handy addons for you at http://www.andyhalford.com/

In Particular - I believe the most popular would be:

SortPlaces is a Firefox extension that allows you to sort your bookmarks I found the options dialog on this to be a bit confusing - but eventually I sorted it out.

CheckPlaces is a Firefox extension that allows you to check your bookmarks. I was especially impressed with this one - its like an AM-DEADLINKS but integrated into Firefox. Verrrry Niiiiice !! (If you have used AM-DEADLINKS with firefox you will appreciate not having to export & import your bookmarks). Also reading the Release Notes - the developer is aware of XMarks - and has taken steps to test and check for compatibility with it. (But backup your bookmarks just in case).

There are a few others but their use is a little more specialised and possibly not useful for everybody.
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Old 15. Jul 2009, 09:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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... So if anyone knows of a (preferably free) tool to organise about 6,000 bookmarks, simply (drag and drop?), and thumbnail representations of the website, I'd love to hear about it.
Hi Jason, good to have this thread. I wonder if tidyFavorites will do what you want. It looks impressive but I've not tried it out thoroughly.

At the main site, there's Best Free Bookmark Syncronizer (Stub only) created sometime ago, currently under site.editor. Since this topic is alive now, I've just drafted an Intro and added to the stub some products, including tidyFavorites and others, to be reviewed. It's just a start, anyone can carry on from there, Wiki style.
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Old 15. Jul 2009, 10:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Anyone tried Mozilla Weave yet? Its like Xmarks, but I think it may only work for Firefox.
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Old 15. Jul 2009, 12:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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$35 USD is a bit much for me to afford -
It is Freeware - most of its functions will stay alive after the transmutation from trial version to freeware, so you even get it for less then $15!
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I installed Tidy Favorites for the first time a couple days ago on my work machine. I have mixed feelings about it.

Pros--very nice drag and drop features. Very visual....allows you to see a small thumbnail of each of your favorites/bookmarks. Ability to import and export.

Cons--I have not been able to synchronize my Tidy Favorites to their online site. There is an option to do this automatically (Pro version) or manually (free version). It does not work for me. I believe it is do to our company firewall. I am working with their tech support on this issue.
Another con is that if you have a long page of thumbnails and delete a bunch of them, you then have a whole lot of blank space. You have to physically move the thumbnails up to fill in the blank space. This can get quite time consuming. Lastly, it takes up system memory as an icon sits in your taskbar.

Conclusion--one of the main reasons that I wanted to try it was to sync my work bookmarks/favorites with my home bookmarks/favorites. At this point, since this feature is not working for me, I'm not finding it all that useful. We will see what happens with their tech support. In the end, I found it interesting and enjoyed at first "playing" with it, but the newness has worn off and I'm not sure that I will continue to use it.
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Old 16. Jul 2009, 04:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'd like to clarify that when I started the original post - I'm not as concerned about backing up or transferring between different browsers.

There are a lot of tools around that will either let you store your bookmarks online (or on your own server) and also those that will provide functionality to transfer bookmarks between IE, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari etc.

That's not really what I would consider "organizing" but rather just pushing them around and backing them up.

But what if after years of neglect you have a real mess on your hands and even after removing the duplicates - you are sure that with a little planning and introducing some structure you can start to categorize and group your bookmarks into meaningful little communities where all the residents share the same hobbies, or drive the same type of cars.

I'm really focused on introducing some order to these bookmarks, and probably also looking at some consistent scheme of tagging.

Once that all happens, I can again being the task of randomly adding favorites in a quest to return to the chaos that is my life today.
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But what if after years of neglect you have a real mess on your hands and even after removing the duplicates - you are sure that with a little planning and introducing some structure you can start to categorize and group your bookmarks into meaningful little communities where all the residents share the same hobbies, or drive the same type of cars.

I'm really focused on introducing some order to these bookmarks, and probably also looking at some consistent scheme of tagging.

Once that all happens, I can again being the task of randomly adding favorites in a quest to return to the chaos that is my life today.
Ah, a topic close to my heart, since I've spent the last week or so doing exactly that.
I have problems with the Firefox bookmark library freezing up if I need to move or delete more than a few things. What I ended up doing was exporting my bookmarks into Internet Explorer. After I had them moved, I started organizing them into some sort of order. I used xplorer2 to do all the organizing - creating folders and moving things around. The extra panes made the process go easier.

I have a handful of folders that I created that would cover most areas I bookmark things in. Dictionary and Reference, Fonts, Governments, Health and Medicine, Legal, News and Weather, Portals, Productivity, Search and Metasearch, and a few others for tech related stuff.
I have a handful folders on my Bookmarks Toolbar for things I use or need everyday.

When I was done, I used a program called Transmute to import my bookmarks into Firefox in the native format. It also imports and export from other browsers. No synchronization though, I use Sugar Sync for that. I have my Firefox profile to be synced on an ongoing basis. I like Sugar Sync because it lets you sync several computers even with the free account.

I also have them sync'd to an extra internal hard drive, backed up to an external hard drive, and often my flash drive.
I'm a big fan of redundancy, having lost data from most hardware at one time or another.

I've managed to pare down over 5,000 bookmarks to around 500. It was a years long accumulation, since I tend to be a packrat when it comes to information. The good thing is that many of the bookmarks are no longer relevant- they've been left in the dust of technological progress.

Oh, my favorite folder lives on my bookmark toolbar, its called "Read Later."
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Wow rhiannon ... 5,000 bookmarks . Now that's a lot . But, no wonder, looking at the hot finds that you post, which are wonderful... and I am often in awe, how are you able to find out such stuff. Hats off to you . Its quite natural that you will have this amount of bookmarks.

I had started arranging my bookmarks in folders quite early, since I knew, with the increasing amount of bookmarks, it was sure going to be trouble sorting them out later. So now, I have folders... Downloads, Tech Blogs, Support Sites, Music, Ebooks, Mobile, Linux etc. Thanks rhiannon for suggesting a folder "Read Later". I used to just bookmark a site, which I couldn't decide whether I would keep it or not.. and it went to "Unsorted Bookmarks", which I could only access from the "Organize Bookmarks". Now, I can put them all in "Read Later" .

To sync Firefox across different computers, you can use Xmarks(formerly Foxmarks) rhiannon, if you haven't tried it already... its excellent.

Checkplaces looks nice Jason, but its still experimental. Have you tried it out, works well?
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Wow rhiannon ... 5,000 bookmarks . Now that's a lot . But, no wonder, looking at the hot finds that you post, which are wonderful... and I am often in awe, how are you able to find out such stuff. Hats off to you . Its quite natural that you will have this amount of bookmarks.

To sync Firefox across different computers, you can use Xmarks(formerly Foxmarks) rhiannon, if you haven't tried it already... its excellent.

Checkplaces looks nice Jason, but its still experimental. Have you tried it out, works well?
I have so many bookmarks because, well, I've been squirreling them away for about 15 years. In spite of checking and organizing regularly they still accumulate. My other downfall is being interested in so many things. Hence a large collection over a long span of time.

Mostly the things I post to tech treats are usually things I run across day to day. Every now and then I'll grab something out of my bookmarks that's been there so long I'm amazed the sites are still there.
Like the Free After Rebate site. Its one of the oldest bookmarks I have. I think Gizmo mentioned in it in the newsletter but its worth sending it out again.
Sadly, I think its limited to US and maybe Canadian residents.

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Old 17. Jul 2009, 05:25 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've had several types of "Read It Later" folders in my bookmarks - then I'd start to grade the bookmarks on how important I felt it was I looked at them - like a "priority system for procrastinators".

Folders called "Read it Maybe" or "Just In case" or "Don't Bother" would start to appear. I even had a folder called "Pointless Timewasting" just in case I ever had such a surplus of time and needed some inspiration for something pointless to do with it.

Now I use "Taboo" which is like a visual bookmarking addon (for Firefox naturally) - but it creates thumbnails and you can look up the sites on a calendar / grid (handy for people who can't remember what day it is, but remember the day you found a great photoshop site) - or just a listing of sites. It also supports backing up all your taboo data to another folder which is nice if you like to keep this info over a long term. It's got two buttons (add bookmark and open taboo) that you add to the toolbar - and that's it.

It's dead easy to use, and even more convenient than the bookmark menu - because there is no decision to make on which folder the bookmark needs to go in (which is handy when you haven't looked at the site enough to decide how to categorise/file it in your bookmarks).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5756
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