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Old 17. May 2013, 03:56 AM   #31 (permalink)
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So it automatically install the adware and other bundled crap as well? If not, I'd rather keep it on.
Nope, I think Avast just downloads the latest versions of the softwares that's already present in your system, not install them...

It may be just me, but I think this was a bad move from Avast..
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Old 17. May 2013, 08:37 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Oh I see, Free version doesn't even have auto-install. I'll disable it for being a waste of bandwidth, cause I already check regularly from better sources before Avast. Plus, lazy users will probably get multiple versions downloaded before they check, so it's rather useless without at least a notification of sort.
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Old 21. May 2013, 04:35 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I don't understand the last few comments...

I installed Avast 8 after years of MSE use because of the WGA plugin issues in Firefox.

I changed the updates in Avast to just notify when available from the default automatic updates - Avast kept nagging me that my system was at risk and it took me a long time to figure out that it was the change in update status that triggered the status, and not any lagging updates.

Also, when I manually downloaded after I changed the status, it was an endless loop - everytime I hit OK after the download, it would kick me back to the previous screen telling me an update was available, which wasn't.

I press OK, back to the previous screen, yet again.

Once I figured out that it was the update status change, the nag icon went away.

I am not sold on this software - maybe try Avira, although I remember the nag screen.

MSE was pretty non-invasive, I ran it with PrevX for years, but since the plugin management changes in Firefox 21, I had a week of awful problems getting MSE to update, MS kept telling me that my version of Windows was not genuine, and I had to reinstall the 2 plugins manually every day.

I also made the mistake of responding to a PrevX reminder that a new version was available and it downloaded the new Web Root version, which is paid. I liked PrevX a lot.

So, I changed everything - I did run Immunet beside Avast for about 2 days, my system slowed to a crawl, so I jettisoned Immunet.

The combination of MSE and PrevX was efficient and very effective.

So, that's my experience with Avast 8 thus far...

Oops, one more thing - I use PostBox as another email client along with Thunderbird. Avast kept stopping me from sending out emails on PostBox until I added it to a security exception popup that finally showed up after 2 days.

I have no idea how to add exceptions to Avast.

I did find out, though, that previous versions of Avast had issues with T'Bird, of which PostBox is a derivative.
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Old 21. May 2013, 04:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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The mail issue seems to be an ongoing problem with Avast! and some clients. There are varying fixes around but this one appears to be more comprehensive than most.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...f=39&t=2495747

If this doesn't work for you, or you can't be bothered to try (as I confess I might not be ) then maybe a look at AVG might be in order. Tests will always be what they are but AVG is getting good results all round at the moment. The recently improved free version of Bitdefender would be another option.

http://free.avg.com/ww-en/homepage
http://www.bitdefender.com/solutions/free.html
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Old 21. May 2013, 05:46 PM   #35 (permalink)
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MC,

I always appreciate your input - I always look for your threads and comments - thank you so very much, as always.

I've been using Traffic Light for a long time and I like it - if this is any indication, I would be pleased.

I have used AVG in the past, some years ago, as I recall, it was fine, MSE just came along.

I really would like to reinstall the old PrevX 3.0 beside the new AV, so I'm going to cast around to see where I might find it on-line.

Keep you posted...
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Old 22. May 2013, 04:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I don't understand the last few comments...
The last few posts that you are referring to, were about the Software Update module, that has been added into Avast 8. It looks for outdated software which are installed on the system, and alerts to install the new version.

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I changed the updates in Avast to just notify when available from the default automatic updates - Avast kept nagging me that my system was at risk and it took me a long time to figure out that it was the change in update status that triggered the status, and not any lagging updates.

Also, when I manually downloaded after I changed the status, it was an endless loop - everytime I hit OK after the download, it would kick me back to the previous screen telling me an update was available, which wasn't.

I press OK, back to the previous screen, yet again.

Once I figured out that it was the update status change, the nag icon went away.
I think you are using the wrong terms here. What do you mean by update status change?

There are 2 types of updates in Avast. These can be seen when you access the Settings, and then choose the Updates tab. One is the definitions update, which is by default on, and should be let on. It's titled "Engine and Virus Definitions".

The other is the program update, means it's for alerting and downloading new versions of Avast Antivirus. It's titled "Program". By default, it's set to "Ask when an update is available". So, it does not come enabled by default.

So, I think you disabled the automatic updates for the virus definitions, and that's why, Avast was showing you an alert that your system is at risk. And that's a pretty valid alert, because indeed without the virus definitions update, your system is definitely at risk.

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I am not sold on this software
I think you misunderstood the terminology and the settings. That's why you are having problems.

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Oops, one more thing - I use PostBox as another email client along with Thunderbird. Avast kept stopping me from sending out emails on PostBox until I added it to a security exception popup that finally showed up after 2 days.

I have no idea how to add exceptions to Avast.
If you open Avast interface, on the left hand side you will see an Antivirus tab. Click on it, it will show the different shields. I think the problem was with the Mail Shield here... although I am not sure, because I install Avast without the Mail Shield. When you click on Mail Shield. Click its settings, and look for Exclusions in the left hand side. There you can add exceptions.

Similarly for other shields.

For any new program, you have to spend sometime and look around. If you can't find anything, either consult the manual, or post on forum, or just poke around the settings yourself. But, some time has to be spent with a new program, before you figure it out.

I have been using Avast since years, and I am pretty happy with it. I find it the best, and it works for me, so I will keep using it.
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I am not an Avast user. And, I don't put a great deal of stock into all these various AV test results. However, I thought some of you might find these recent test results quite interesting:

http://www.dennistechnologylabs.com/reports/s/a-m/2013/

See the April-June 2013 test results.
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I liked this bit ...

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The ideal product would block all threats and allow all legitimate applications.
A pity to see Avira, Emsisoft and Comodo missing from the tests. But I'm a little skeptical about these kinds of publications too, as for one thing they do vary widely in their conclusions and thus must either be using different criteria for testing, or just be inaccurate...

Someone pointed out on this forum a little while back, MC possibly, that no matter how theoretically efficient your security is, user-friendliness plays a big part in how effective the end result is going to be.

For instance a program that's forever popping up with prompts and warnings that many people don't understand (mentioning no names here ) is in the long run going to be less effective no matter how powerful it is in theory.

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The only problem that I had with Avast is the false positives it raised on some of the files in Games. For instance in Counter-Strike 1.6 it treats the config.exe file as threat, in F.E.A.R it treats the .exe game the same way. I excluded it from scanning the Games folder , and everything is fine.
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Someone pointed out on this forum a little while back, MC possibly, that no matter how theoretically efficient your security is, user-friendliness plays a big part in how effective the end result is going to be.
Yes, this would have been me and such will always remain my opinion.

It is also good to see some of the independent labs like AV-Test marking down products with poor usability.

At the other end of the scale are reviews from PC Mag that penalize products for their inability to install into a heavily infected machine. How useful is that?.. absolute garbage! The main purpose of any security product should IMO be to keep a clean machine malware free. This has always been Comodo's policy too. I have never seen a heavily infected Windows machine that didn't require paid technical attention to clean up and was able to be returned to a pre-infected state of operation. Best then to rescue what you can, learn from the mistake and reformat.

You are correct too that test results vary so widely and there is never any data available for individual users to assess how these results might apply to them. Certainly from my own observations, had the majority of infected users I came across employed safe surfing practices and used WOT with a DNS filter, they would have remained clean even without an AV.

The bottom line is that most of the usual AV products score 100% for known malware so that leaves socially engineered and zero day exploits, the majority of which can be avoided by employing safe surfing practices and products like Sandboxie. The problems begin when users insist that AV vendor claims for "protection" must be correct and then ignore safe surfing practices and the few browser extensions it would take to keep them safe.
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