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Old 13. Mar 2012, 08:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"People argue about 'are we in a post-PC world?'. Why are we arguing? Of course we are in a post-PC world," said Ray Ozzie, the man who succeeded Bill Gates as Microsoft Corp's tech visionary"

"Windows 8 may help Microsoft bridge the gap to the post-PC world, but the 'doom and gloom' scenario for the company is people switching to portable, non-Windows devices," said Ozzie.

"It's a world of phones and pads and devices of all kinds, and our interests in general purpose computing -- or desktop computing -- starts to wane and people start doing the same things and more in other scenarios." -- Sourced from Reuters.

Here are some figures compiled from the interactive chart:



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Old 13. Mar 2012, 10:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"People argue about 'are we in a post-PC world?'. Why are we arguing? Of course we are in a post-PC world,"
There are many arguments against this statement;

The absurd growth per year of tablets is largely associated to them still being a relatively new product on the market, which also means advances in its technology is much quicker and in bigger leaps with each advancement than established products, such as PC's.

There is also the substantial difference in price which means there is ultimately a much larger target audience for tablets.

Both of these also contribute to there being a much bigger incentive to current owners to upgrade lo latest releases; it is much more viable to upgrade a tablet due to less cost and many improvements over earlier releases. Whereas PC's have a very substantial upgrade cost and usually not many good reasons to do so.

Plus, do these figures incorporate PC parts? You can obviously upgrade a PC without purchasing an entire new PC, whereas you cannot with the other two.

I would be very surprised if the people purchasing tablets/smart phones are no longer using their PC's either. The products as a whole are just too different to justify his statement.

I think what he is truely meaning is that it is in Microsoft's best interests financially to focus on 'the world of phones and pads'.

We are not in a post-PC world in terms of PC use I believe.
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Old 13. Mar 2012, 10:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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We are not in a post-PC world in terms of PC use I believe.
I tend to agree. I also think there is a concentrated effort by the marketing geniuses of mobile devices to manipulate users thinking in this direction

I remember when vacum cleaners were supposed to make a dustpan and brush redundant, yet we still have ours. There's also an advantage with this "outdated" technology in that when you drop your shiny new i-whatsit on the floor and it smashes into a zillion pieces, you cannot suck it up with a vacum cleaner, yet a dustpan and brush will do just fine
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Old 13. Mar 2012, 02:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Of course I don't think the PC market will die overnight. It might take some years to reduce its significance. We have seen notebooks eat into the desktop PC market, and now we see 'tablets and smartphones' start eating into the notebook market.

From the same source, Ozzie says, "That doesn't mean the PC dies, that just means that the scenarios that we use them in, we stop referring to them as PCs, we refer to them as other things."

Imagine a few years back, when we need to check emails or browse a webpage, the only place is a desktop PC or notebook, now we have alternate computing devices like tablets and smartphones.

Here's another quote from Wikipedia:

"In July and August 2011, marketing businesses and journalists began to talk about the 'Post-PC Era', in which the desktop form factor was being replaced with more portable computing such as netbooks, Tablet PCs, and smartphones."
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Imagine a few years back, when we need to check emails or browse a webpage, the only place is a desktop PC or notebook, now we have alternate computing devices like tablets and smartphones.

"In July and August 2011, marketing businesses and journalists began to talk about the 'Post-PC Era', in which the desktop form factor was being replaced with more portable computing such as netbooks, Tablet PCs, and smartphones."
No one mentioned Ultrabooks which I fell are the perfect cross between tablets and laptops. Too bad they're so expensive at this time. But that will change as the 2nd generation will be released this summer.

I'm the type of guy that wants his cell phone to be just that, a cell phone and nothing else. But give me an icore 5 and 6 gigs of ram in a solid, mobile platform at an affordable price for my real computing needs over a smartphone any day.
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At the end of the day people will still want a standard sized keyboard and a monitor to get work done with. I don't own a smart phone any more but when I did I uploaded my file to my PC which I then used for editing, emailing and Printing the documents. I can see how a Tablet would be nice to have while on the road but I can see a notebook doing that job just as well or better.

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We are transitioning from the PC world to the post PC world. I can see that in newer operating systems such as the upcoming windows 8 and mountain lion to ubuntu unity (11.04 and above). Even mobile operating systems like android offers file explorers as an option but without the multiple windows. I personally know someone who uses her android smartphone for her primary needs since she could barely use a computer. I can see the use of mobile operating systems like iOS and android as consumption devices rather than for productivity. Most of the people I know who have them use them for games and viewing websites and documents. Many people who use computers for productivity would require a precise input (like a keyboard and mouse) and a well sized monitor.
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At the end of the day people will still want a standard sized keyboard and a monitor to get work done with. I don't own a smart phone any more but when I did I uploaded my file to my PC which I then used for editing, emailing and Printing the documents. I can see how a Tablet would be nice to have while on the road but I can see a notebook doing that job just as well or better.
I don't own a smartphone either, got no intention of owning one anytime soon. My old desktop PC seems to be dying a slow death, something new seems to go wrong with it whenever i switch it on, but i rarely switch it on these days so maybe that's why. On the other hand my laptop is on all day everyday and i would never replace it with a tablet because there simply is no tablet available with the processing and multitasking ability of my laptop. Added to this, i like having a proper keyboard and a dvd drive and i like having a decent size screen. Tablets and smartphones are neat gadgets but for serious computing i still believe you need a serious computer, and tablets ain't that. That is all
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