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Anupam 19. Apr 2013 07:48 AM

Startup Manager app for Android
 
Any good startup manager app for Android?

I searched and found that there are some out there, but which one is considered good, any idea?

I found that ES Task Manager has a startup manager, is it good?

Unfortunately, I did not find much programs to disable from that list :( .. wish I could cut down on some in the startup list. Is YouTube required to startup? I read somewhere that do not disable YouTube app for security reasons... strange.

Also, is there any system file from where the startup list is controlled? I have worked on Linux before, and that time I had enough knowledge of various boot-up files, startup files, system files and so on. But, after many years, I forgot.

Also, are there terminal apps present for Android... where you can run commands on the terminal, like it can be done on Linux?

eyeb 19. Apr 2013 01:54 PM

I use gemini app manager, to manage apps, it can do startups as well, it is free
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...gmappmgr&hl=en

I disable most but the needed apps on startup :S like I do windows... I keep phone/google systems/calendar/texting. Any 3rd pt app I disable, unless I know what it is for, like wallpaper/clock widget

Anupam 19. Apr 2013 03:04 PM

Sorry, I had to edit out the commercial app link you posted. Let's keep it to free apps only please :).

Well, I use ES File Explorer, and it has got an app manager in it. Also, via ES Task Manager integration, startup manager functionality is also there. That way, I think it's comparable to Gemini App Manager.

eyeb 19. Apr 2013 06:04 PM

here's a free one that does the same :) forgot about the no commercial links rule
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....autorun&hl=en

IO.Hazard 19. Apr 2013 08:15 PM

You should definitely install SystemCleanup.

If you want to disable Autostarts / Autoruns just launch the app, go to "Apps", tap on the app you want to edit and then select "Disable Autoruns" from the pop-up menu, voilą! :D

This is a very powerful, yet surprisingly very easy to handle app with a simple interface that gathers a bunch of features for app(s) maintenance and cleaning within any rooted Android device. Just make sure you measure twice and cut once when using it.

Anupam 19. Apr 2013 08:34 PM

Ah great IO.Hazard! I knew you will come up with something ;)

BTW, how do you measure the startup manager in ES Task Manager?

kendall.a 19. Apr 2013 08:51 PM

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You should definitely install SystemCleanup.
Please forgive me, but am I correct that your phone has to be rooted in order to use this app?

Is there a similar app for un-rooted phones?

IO.Hazard 19. Apr 2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 86417)
Ah great IO.Hazard! I knew you will come up with something ;)

BTW, how do you measure the startup manager in ES Task Manager?

ES Task Manager is a great tool for unrooted devices, but if you have a rooted one there are some apps (such as the one I suggested to you) that will do a better job.

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Originally Posted by kendall.a (Post 86419)
Please forgive me, but am I correct that your phone has to be rooted in order to use this app?

Is there a similar app for un-rooted phones?

Yep, SystemCleaner works only on rooted devices.

I'm afraid there is not a similar app for non-rooted phones and if you find one, chances are it is some kind of placebo. That is not due to a lack of good free apps, it is just because non-rooted devices are harder to control and tweak. As I said to Anupam, ES Task Manager is the closest you can get to a good, sensible app management on non-rooted phones and tablets.

wdhpr 20. Apr 2013 01:30 AM

I installed this app and though it can be very helpful I read that it can also cause problem such as causing the phone to continuously boot into a loop. By running the cleanup tool I gained an additional 25 MB for the phone as for the other tools in this app I will proceed with extreme caution since I'm unable to make a NANDROID backup.

IO.Hazard 20. Apr 2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wdhpr (Post 86431)
I installed this app and though it can be very helpful I read that it can also cause problem such as causing the phone to continuously boot into a loop. By running the cleanup tool I gained an additional 25 MB for the phone as for the other tools in this app I will proceed with extreme caution since I'm unable to make a NANDROID backup.

It is true that a faulty operation while using SystemCleaner can cause the infamous bootloop. But it is equally true that it could also happen when using any advanced app with root permissions such as TitaniumBackup, Root Uninstaller or even ES Explorer.

Thankfully, the developers have found ways to protect the users from themselves by adding double or triple confirmation boxes and by labeling the apps with relevant information such as "system - do not remove" or "safe to remove" and so on. Unfortunately, we never fail to get 'adventurers' who dare to do it anyway just for the sake of it. :rolleyes:

Common sense 101: Leave things the way they are unless you really, really know what you are doing. Don't forget to make regular nandroid backups of your system and keep them somewhere else besides your SDCard like in the Cloud or in a good flash drive.

If you cannot install CWM for whatever reason, then OrangeBackup is a must and I hope that it will prove useful in creating your first nandroid backup. :cool:

Regards.

wdhpr 20. Apr 2013 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IO.Hazard
If you cannot install CWM for whatever reason, then OrangeBackup is a must and I hope that it will prove useful in creating your first nandroid backup.

Thanks this will do for now until CWM supports my phone.

Your correct about SystemCleaner it clearly shows which apps not to remove. When you browse the help file it gives a warning in bold red letters to use with extreme caution. More apps should be this responsible

kendall.a 20. Apr 2013 06:12 AM

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If you cannot install CWM for whatever reason, then OrangeBackup is a must and I hope that it will prove useful in creating your first nandroid backup.
Question again--does this program require a rooted phone?

wdhpr 20. Apr 2013 06:16 AM

Cant use OrangeBackup either, my phone is not supported yet. As of now there isn't even a rom for my phone on Rom Manager's website. Not sure if I can use a rom that comes close to my model of phone (Concord Model ZTE V768) http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager

eyeb 20. Apr 2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IO.Hazard (Post 86416)
You should definitely install SystemCleanup.

If you want to disable Autostarts / Autoruns just launch the app, go to "Apps", tap on the app you want to edit and then select "Disable Autoruns" from the pop-up menu, voilą! :D

I'm testing this app out, I don't see the disable autoruns option from popup menu. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right though, I go to the apps tab then select the app, long hold it to open popup menu. I get options to move to sd, kill task,uninstall,etc but no disable autorum

wdhpr 20. Apr 2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kendall
Question again--does this program require a rooted phone?

From what I have read the answer is yes. A description of Orange Backup from Google Apps:

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Easily backup your entire device to the cloud in one tap! Don't be caught without a full Nandroid backup!

==ROOTED DEVICE ONLY ==

First application to let you make a NANDROID BACKUP (backup of absolutely ALL your data on your device), zip and upload to your Cloud* in ONE CLICK only !!!


Make backups any way you want:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...Ym9yYW5nZTMiXQ..

Anupam 20. Apr 2013 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eyeb (Post 86456)
I'm testing this app out, I don't see the disable autoruns option from popup menu. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right though, I go to the apps tab then select the app, long hold it to open popup menu. I get options to move to sd, kill task,uninstall,etc but no disable autorum

Maybe you are doing it on an app that does not auto run :). For apps that auto run, it will show an auto run besides, or below it. For that app, if you do a long press, it will show disable auto runs in the menu.

eyeb 20. Apr 2013 08:00 PM

hm i thought that, but I tried with apps that has the "auto" text on app. not sure what's wrong with it for me :D but I'm running android off my sd card so I'm sure it just isn't compatible

Anupam 20. Apr 2013 08:09 PM

Well, I think both "auto" and "runs" is required for the disable auto runs to appear in the menu.

IO.Hazard 20. Apr 2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdhpr (Post 86451)
Cant use OrangeBackup either, my phone is not supported yet. As of now there isn't even a rom for my phone on Rom Manager's website. Not sure if I can use a rom that comes close to my model of phone (Concord Model ZTE V768) http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager

Just because your phone doesn't show on the OrangeBackup list it doesn't mean it won't work. My phone didn't appear on the "official" list either but the app worked for me anyway.

When prompted, leave the "Brand" space blank and select Samsung Galaxy S Plus as your phone model. That did the trick for me. :D

As soon as OrangeBackup initiates the back-up process it will need to download some extra files, so make sure you're not blocking it with a firewall. Also, make sure you've selected/created a external SD directory as your backup target and that you have unchecked the "Upload Backup" option located within the settings menu.

In the event that the back-up process doesn't work, there is nothing to worry about. The worst thing that could happen is the process to be halted and OrangeBackup saying "Backup error, aborting". No changes will be made to your phone.

Give it a try whhpr. It won't hurt you nor your phone. :)

wdhpr 21. Apr 2013 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IO.Hazard
Give it a try whhpr. It won't hurt you nor your phone. :)

Thanks I was afraid it might sprout wings and chase me around the living room. On second thought, that's what my mother-in-law does :D

Anyway I'll give it another shot, I'll let you know how it goes.

wdhpr 21. Apr 2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IO.Hazard
In the event that the back-up process doesn't work, there is nothing to worry about. The worst thing that could happen is the process to be halted and OrangeBackup saying "Backup error, aborting". No changes will be made to your phone.

After attempting first backup I get: unknown error code 132 Hmmmm this should be simple but I'm hitting some snags. After installing OrangeBackup I found no option for this
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When prompted, leave the "Brand" space blank and select Samsung Galaxy S Plus as your phone model. That did the trick for me.
I must be doing something wrong, darn if I know what it is :(

IO.Hazard 22. Apr 2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wdhpr (Post 86524)
I must be doing something wrong, darn if I know what it is :(

Don't worry wdhpr. This kind of things happen all the time, everywhere and on any OS. There's no One-size-fits-all solution. At least you had the guts to try. :cool:

There are several ways to install CWM on unsupported devices though they are not the most straightforward. As soon as I find (and confirm) any of those will work on your device I'll let you know.

wdhpr 22. Apr 2013 11:16 PM

Thanks IO.Hazard
I gave it a good try and I'm not defeated just delayed. Even though Android is based on Linux its a whole different animal. I think it's due the miniaturization as well as the growing number of the types of phones and hardware. If you think about it, Linux on PC's has had a long time to mature and has worked out allot of issues. I'm certain the kinks will work themselves out, until then I will be content with a cell phone with some really cool games :D


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