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Old 11. Mar 2011, 09:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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That is so true and hopefully good will come from it.

PS: So not to be misunderstood. I thought bk_7312's post was very good and I couldn't help but smile after reading the last line of his post.

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Old 12. Mar 2011, 03:25 AM   #32 (permalink)
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@Jeff

In most cases, I would read relevant reviews first before trying out a distro. This includes Bodhi which I believe you've spent a lot of time on it.

I've gone through Dedoimedo's review on your distro, and your rebuttal of the points in the review. It's also delighted to see you fixed a bug showing 'restore last session' in the default home page of Firefox, described as 'a leftover from the remastering process' in the review.

In a review, I normally see what are the facts or findings which a reviewer is pointing out. If you ask me, I tend to agree that a simple text editor should be included in a distro, even a minimalist distro. Following this thread, I understand that you've a choice list duing setup, but I do not know if there's a default install for certain basic apps if none are chosen. Just a question.

It's good to see we have more members here, not only editors, but also developers, reviewers, site visitors... Well, as what MC said, it's the contribution that is important.

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In your rebuttal, you mentioned that "Dedoimedo is kind enough to have any form of commenting disabled on his website". Well, we now have a new article "MoonOS 4 Neak" done by him (thanks Dedoimedo), the comments section is usually open at Gizmo's Freeware.
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Old 12. Mar 2011, 06:33 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I tend to agree that a simple text editor should be included in a distro, even a minimalist distro
nano and vim always have been installed by default in Bodhi. Yet another false fact in the Dedoimedo "review".

Seriously, I think he ran the disc without looking at any documentation on the project. Beyond this he failed to mention the art page, software center, and quick start guide. All of which help people new to Linux and E itself :-/

I can only help those that help themselves. As I tell my high school students often, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!

- As far as his MoonOS review goes. Is there any Linux OS that doesn't just annoy the crap out of Dedoimedo?

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Old 12. Mar 2011, 07:12 AM   #34 (permalink)
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All of which help people new to Linux and E itself :-/
Base on everything Ive read
I would think people new to Linux would be lost trying to use Bodhi as their first distro.
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Old 12. Mar 2011, 08:56 AM   #35 (permalink)
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To answer one simple question, is there any distro that does not annoy my feces out, as so subtly put by another participant in the forum, well here's a more recent list of positive reviews, across the board:

PCLinuxOS 2010.1, Mandriva 2010.1, Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu 10.10, openSUSE 11.2, openSUSE 11.3, Pardus 2009, Debian 5, CentOS 5.3, Linux Mint Julia, Puppy 5, Scientific Linux 5; even Fedora 13/14 are ok to some extent.

So that covers "any". But not "all".

And it's quite possible that I may not like the successors of any one of these.

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Old 12. Mar 2011, 10:26 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I think we've already established that reviews are the personal opinions of those producing them and will not therefore match the experiences of every one else.

In the context of this thread I think we can also agree that Jeff and his team are fully entitled to make Bodhi Linux how they see fit. Ultimately it will be an expanding or contracting user base which decides if they've got this right, and not a single review.

I would also like to request a close on this particular argument which I believe has now run its useful course

On a more general note I would also like to draw attention to the language used when trying to make an expressive point. Although the words in this thread are what most would find acceptable, the way in which they are used may not. This is after all a family forum and maybe isn't the best way to introduce children to the world of Linux. Having just published a piece myself about a distro aimed at two year olds we must also assume that there are a few more youngsters hovering around here than normal, and we should respect that.
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Old 12. Mar 2011, 12:01 PM   #37 (permalink)
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In the context of this thread I think we can also agree that Jeff and his team are fully entitled to make Bodhi Linux how they see fit. Ultimately it will be an expanding or contracting user base which decides if they've got this right, and not a single review.

I would also like to request a close on this particular argument which I believe has now run its useful course
As a closing note, Bodhi Linux 0.1.7 is released! That was fast.

@wdhpr - I seriously still don't remember why I wrote it though (but I'm glad I did and I'm proud of it), just that writing that post took a little too much time than I've expected.
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