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Old 27. Dec 2010, 07:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 28. Dec 2010, 07:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Have now wired up my router directly to my LT and installed bcmwl etc via the SPM.

I still could not connect to the Internet via my wi-fi.

I then also installed the bcm B43 and STA propriety drivers, again no connection.

Decided to remove bcmwl etc but leave bcm B43 and STA as was; again no connection.

In SPM there are the 5 items yet to be marked for installation:

Firmware b43-installer
Firmware b43-legacy installer
Firmware b43-lpphy installer
b43-fwcutter
bcm 5700- source

Should I install any or all of the above 5 items?
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Old 28. Dec 2010, 07:53 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Try doing it a different way first. I don't have Mint installed currently, so I am going from memory. Let me know if something in my instructions is unclear.

1. Go to the mint menu.

2. Find "System"

3. Find "Administration"

4. Click "Hardware Drivers"

5. Once that loads there will be a suggestion to install certain propriatary drivers. Usually there are recommended ones. If one Broadcom STA is already activated you may need to activate the other one It should be B43. Activate the driver, and then restart your system.

Let me know what happens.
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Under additional drivers it shows only one driver; the STA and it shows as being activated. Up until this point it has always shown two drivers STA and B43 and both have been deactivated.

I thought I'd better check exactly what I had installed via SPM when Mint crashed!

It has since crashed a further 2 times and now I am completely stuck; where is jojoyee and his glowing reviews of this distro when i need him?!

Any further suggestions will be gratefully received.
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Old 29. Dec 2010, 07:40 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I thought I'd better check exactly what I had installed via SPM when Mint crashed!

It has since crashed a further 2 times and now I am completely stuck; where is jojoyee and his glowing reviews of this distro when i need him?!

Any further suggestions will be gratefully received.
For best performance, it's better to install Linux Mint in a separate partition and not inside the Windows partition. If the Mint system keeps crashing, there's a good chance that you might need to re-install it.

I don't have a Dell Inspiron 1521 so I can't tell exactly how. You might want to try this post which offered a solution. As mentioned by Ritho, Mint is based on Ubuntu so what works for Ubuntu should generally work for Mint too.

See also: Wireless Networking Central
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Old 29. Dec 2010, 01:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Thanks Jojoyee for the links.

'For best performance, it's better to install Linux Mint in a separate partition and not inside the Windows partition.'

As I want to keep XP and have a dual boot the aforementioned is not an option.

Do you think that the activation of the wifi driver could be causing Mint to crash as prior to this Mint was running fine?

If push comes to shove I will do a fresh install and try installing wifi radar.
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As I want to keep XP and have a dual boot the aforementioned is not an option.
In actual fact, when you install Mint in a separate partition, it will provide you with a dual boot menu to either boot up your XP or Mint system. In the same hard disk, I have Mint, Ubuntu, XP and 7, each takes up a partition of its own, with a multiple-boot option.

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Do you think that the activation of the wifi driver could be causing Mint to crash as prior to this Mint was running fine?
It might be, but I can't be sure since I haven't tried it with the same hardware.

If the wifi radar deosn't work, you can try to look around the documentation for support. Unfortunately, Dell wireless 1390 carries a yellow tag here which means only some are supported.

Here is a related topic:
Device Firmware installation for Ubuntu/Debian -- installing b43-fwcutter package.
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Old 29. Dec 2010, 06:59 PM   #28 (permalink)
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After spending countless hours attempting to get this O/S to connect to my wifi I have finally decided to uninstall. Ubuntu , Zorin and now Mint have all failed in my opinion.

I don't have an obscure make of LT, it is a Dell and so the blame, as far as I can see, is with the devs of the 3 aforementioned systems.

Ritho and Jo!joyee many thanks for your time and patience!
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Old 29. Dec 2010, 07:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I think you gave up too easy. Did you try ndiswrapper? It is designed to use the windows driver in linux. I have had success with that before with a netgear card that did not support linux at all. Here is someone that did that in Ubuntu with your very same laptop. http://gostewarts.wordpress.com/2009...r-ubuntu-9-04/

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I don't have an obscure make of LT, it is a Dell and so the blame, as far as I can see, is with the devs of the 3 aforementioned systems.
I am sorry but I can't see how any linux distro can be blamed for a linux driver designed by broadcom not working with their own card. Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin or any other OS developer is not responsible to write drivers for every device in existence. It is not even possible if they wanted to. Do you think that Microsoft wrote the driver that makes your card work in Windows? No Broadcom wrote the driver. Microsoft might include it in their OS by default, but it is still a Broadcom product.

If I bought a new broadcom wireless card for my Windows 7 machine and tried to install the driver and could not get it to work with the new card, I would blame the manufacture of the card for making a lousy driver. If I called Microsoft support an insisted it was their fault they would laugh at me and say no you have to take it up with broadcom. It is their card and their driver.

Anyway my understanding is that Intel wireless cards work much more reliably with Linux distros. This success is because Intel supports linux better. Yes there are such things as third party drivers which come into being because the manufacture does not bother to write any themselves, but still the OS developer is not responsible to be the ones to write those.
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Another thing...

Can you imagine Microsoft including a tool especially designed to make Linux drivers work in Windows, or make Macintosh drivers work in Windows. They would never do it.

Linux includes ndiswrapper to make wireless drivers designed for an entirely different OS work in their OS's. That is very commendable.
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