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Old 17. Dec 2010, 01:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My Computer Is getting old. Im buying a laptop in the new year. And i am donating my dektop pc to my computer illiterate mother and sisters. Since they dont know much of computers it wont be hard for them to adjust. Id like to think i have leaned the in's and out's of this computer. WinXP or at least enough to fix problems when the occure.

But XP is getting a bit old, so many updates and services packs ect, I thought of getting shot of xp all together and replacing it with ubuntu. I know what i need to know of winXP but know nothing of linux.

I know its more stable and dont need a anti-virus which would save me having to scan the computer every week. But with XP i have it set up C:\windows
D:\Programs + User Data (login + desktop ect). E:\Virtual Memory F:\My Documents folder for all users This is how i find it best to keep my computer organised so i know where things are.. If i accidently delete something i know where to recover from. and other problems.

Would or Can you do this kind of setup in Ubuntu. With xp you can tweak performance in the registry do you need or can you do this in ubuntu. So many questions similar to this. Any advice or tips?
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Old 17. Dec 2010, 03:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Between Ubuntu and Mint, I would recommend Mint for users who're already familiar with Windows. To begin with, Mint has a bottom panel (taskbar) with a start menu looks closer to Windows.

When the system is installed, it sets up the necessary folders for you. First click Menu and choose an item under "Places", it will open up Nautilus file manager. On the left panel, it shows some items like, basically:

Your_name: that's your home folder (/home/your_name) to keep your personal files.
Desktop: contains files on the desktop
File System: that's the root folder (/), under which, /bin contains most of the programs, /boot contains the Linux kernel.

Some bookmarked folders are added for you by default, like:
Ducuments (/home/your_name/Ducuments)
Music (/home/your_name/Music)
Pictures (/home/your_name/Pictures)

These are all in one partition, but you can choose to have your personal files to store in other partitions as well.

Windows identifies your harddisk partitions by C: D: E..., whereas Mint or Ubuntu identifies them in another form like sda1, sda2, sda3...(or hda1...for IDE drive), but they show up by partition label (where applicable) in the file manager.

See also: Tips and Tricks for Linux Mint after Installation
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Old 17. Dec 2010, 04:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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As a fairly recent migrant from Windows myself I would second Jojo's opinion about Mint for anyone looking for what IMO is the most complete Linux system now available.

If you want something which looks like Windows out of the box then Zorin is worth a look too. I tried the x64 bit version on my system and it was rock solid and like lightening ("tested to be around 4 times faster than Windows 7"). The final release of V4 for Zorin is due shortly, maybe even next week.

http://www.zorin-os.webs.com/

Support is not as comprehensive as Ubuntu or Mint but much of what you see in their forums can also be applied to Zorin which is based on Ubuntu.

[edit] Just noticed that the final for Zorin 4 is listed on their website for release on Wednesday 22nd December.
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Old 17. Dec 2010, 06:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi systemcrash,
What ram do you have on the machine? The o/s being mentioned which are all based on Ubuntu Desktop Edition need:

* 1 GHz x86 processor
* 1GB of system memory (RAM)
* 15GB of hard-drive space (although this can be split onto 2 drives, a 5Gb / and a 10Gb /home fairly easily)
* Graphics card and monitor capable of 1024 by 768
* Either a CD/DVD Drive or a USB port (or both)
From here:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...emRequirements

Hope this helps?

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Old 17. Dec 2010, 06:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Zorin is a bit less. These are for V3, not sure if there's likely to be any upward revision for V4.

Minimal:

* 700 MHz x86 processor
* 128 MB of system memory (RAM)
* Graphics card capable of 640x480 resolution
* Sound card

Recomended:

* 1GHz x86 processor
* 512 MB of system memory (RAM)
* Graphics card capable of 1024x768 resolution
* Sound card
* A network or Internet connection
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Turns out i have migrated to linux sooner then planned attempting to put zorin on a external hdd, when i removed the drive i could not boot into windows, not even into recovery mode missing grub. Done a general google search and other places had the answers. I plugged in the external hdd and was able to multi-boot again. So i shut down and rebooted without the external hdd plugged in, and inserted my XP cd in recovery mode. Replaced the MBR and boot.ini file Logged on went fine. As i shut down the computer it said C:\windows was corrupted. So rather then recover i destroyed to give linux a shot. If it fails il load Xp again. But i loaded Ubuntu before i was able to read the post left in the forum.

I only have 512mb Ram on this computer, with ubuntu installed what kind of problems can i expect?

Also because im use to windows i was thinking of a transformation pack for ubuntu http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog...-like-windows7
Looks Nice and better yet doesnt have the windows icon plastered everywhere. I just like the iconised taskbar, i might settle for using a dock though.

Theres many people saying why? on other web sites but win7 does look nice and can be recreated in ubuntu, making linux more appealing to other users that dont use linux on there computers and are use to windows they wont feel much of a difference.
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Old 18. Dec 2010, 04:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It's more ideal to install a system on an internal drive for more persistent use. Making multiple partitions on a single drive is one of the popular options for a multi-boot system.

If you install a linux distro in a partition on the same or even another drive, it normally writes MBR to link to the boot sector of that partition. The boot process is broken when that boot sector disappears.

In regard to RAM if the size is lower than the recommended one, system performance is likely to be affected. Topping up RAM is one of the solutions, but trying other Linux distro like Zorin as mentioned by MC is a good option too IMO.
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My dual booting and partitioning skills are limited at best because it's something that my tech always used to set up for me Since mostly "going it alone" though I've had several attempts which all resulted in failure except for the latest Mint which is currently dual booted with Windows 7 on this machine. Windows 7 was the primary install and then Mint installed flawlessly alongside it.

For a lower powered machine though I'd definitely look at Zorin after V4 is released next Wednesday. At least with these things you can run one from the live CD first to see what you think to it.

I've always had a problem with my secondary broadband connection which was previously only recognised out of the box by Ubuntu. The latest Mint now does this too and as Zorin 4 is based on Ubuntu 10.10 I'm assuming it will also, so I'll be having a look at this myself next week
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Straightforward basic partitioning scheme for 10.04 with screenshots

http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2010/05/26...-ubuntu-10-04/

Hope this helps someone?

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well i replaced ubuntu with zorin os4 beta and i kept on having freezing problems, Even though i burned the iso at a low speed, so i downloaded the stable version of zorin os 3 and had the same intermittent freezing problems. So once again i am back on ubuntu 9.10 and upgrading from a older disk i had laying around rather then burning a new disk, (I have ran out of disks and i cant boot from my usb) so il try other system later, there are a few out there any advice other then Zorin?
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