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Old 18. Jul 2012, 12:47 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Having read Dedoimedo's glowing review of Zorin 6 Core, I had another look myself.

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/zorin-core-6.html

The live session was actually very stable so I can only assume that my last effort with a USB was somehow flawed compared to this one with a live DVD. The overall impression however remains the same. Despite all the tweaks and gadgets this is no way as configurable as say the likes of Xubuntu for those who really like to create a custom look. There is a statement in the Zorin forum blaming these restrictions on those imposed by the adoption of Gnome 3, but this rather ignores the OP's complaint about V6 being a backward step from V5.2, and not being able to change his window borders.

There were also a few other things such as the haphazard way that the awn mail applet recorded the number of new messages for Thunderbird. The numbers arrived OK, but also stayed there displayed on the icon intil when I'm not sure because I tried everything to get rid of them but apparently closing the program is the only way. Again, compared to the Firetray extension which works across most Linux desktops, this is a pretty lame resource. No doubt switching to another Zorin "look" might makes things different, but if I was using this I would wish to have the full Windows 7 monty landscape for Zorin. Unfortunately then, not for me.
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Old 19. Jul 2012, 03:50 AM   #72 (permalink)
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I too went back and tried a fresh install from a CD based on dedoimedo's review. I experienced stability issues mostly related to the Dockx app. My major beef was that I could not run Windows games from a CD. Checked up and down with many forums but no joy. Mint Julia and Zorin 5 ran them with ease.

I'm becoming weary with Gnome3. I don't like it, its awkward and it doesn't seem to be intuitive. Is this whats called progress? or am I just being stubborn?
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Old 19. Jul 2012, 06:13 AM   #73 (permalink)
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I'm becoming weary with Gnome3. I don't like it, its awkward and it doesn't seem to be intuitive. Is this whats called progress? or am I just being stubborn?
I think this mirrors the thoughts of many of us. Initially we were very anti Gnome 3 because of the limitations and loss of stability over Gnome 2. Then we really tried to like it as a few more themes and extensions became available. Unfortunately though, the underlying factors are still there. Cinnamon might do it for me if they can cure the stability issues, but otherwise I am now totally sold on Xfce. For me, Xubuntu x64 gives me everything I need in terms of creating an individual look, is fast and 100% reliable. The latest Linux Mint Xfce RC is already out so I might consider this as an alternative once the final is released because I do like their menu.
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Just tried Mint xfce RC. although I liked it better than Cinnamon but it still suffers from stability issues. I could find no good way to edit the menu even using the MainMenu app. The launch bar has options to add many Items but places the items in a pull down menu. New items for the Panel itself is limited with no clear way to add new items for use. Going on to SolusOS2 RC-5.
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Agreed about Mint xfce. Not a patch on Xubuntu. I think what has happened (is still happening) with Fusion Linux demonstrates admirably the dilema now facing many Linux devs. Fusion 14 was rock solid, looked beautiful and oozed class. Fusion 15 and 16 were only released as betas and 17 is still not here. I truly believe this is because the developer could not improve on 14, and yet the desire to keep pace with the parent distro (in this case Fedora) makes turning "something" else out inescapable.
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Going on to SolusOS2 RC-5.
More of the same with SolusOS2 also built on-top of Gnome3. I'm starting to realize patching Gnome3 is just not cutting it. They can try their hardest to make it look like Gnome2 but the underlying stability issue's remain. Its like trying to rebuild a car engine with parts off a lawnmower.
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Its like trying to rebuild a car engine with parts off a lawnmower.
Classic - loved it!

Despite my liking for Xubuntu, Xfce still doesn't give me the full desktop experience I was able to enjoy with Gnome. I still might look at Kororaa 17 once the final comes out because I ran the beta for a while on one machine and it was faultless. KDE 4.8 is certainly far more stable that the last few versions. That said, I really don't need all the flashy KDE extras and the resources they use up.
Following the thinking from my post above, I reinstalled Fusion 14.1. I was well surprised to see the updates still supported, although at a fraction short of 500MB and remembering issues with these previously, I cancelled most of them and only updated Flash and a few other bits. Everything works out of the box with this distro anyway and after copying my main data across from the external drive, it literally only takes half an hour to get Fusion looking how I want it to, plus a few extras. In the knowledge that Linux updates are far less important than Windows, I might stick with this now while I wait for Gnome 3 to get turned back into a real car again.
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quote.." Xfce still doesn't give me the full desktop experience I was able to enjoy with Gnome."
So what weren`t you able to achieve that you could in Gnome ?
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quote.." Xfce still doesn't give me the full desktop experience I was able to enjoy with Gnome."
So what weren`t you able to achieve that you could in Gnome ?
Mainly cosmetic via difficulties with Compiz and Emerald compared to how easy this is to setup in Gnome 2. The killer for me though is the way xfce renders the fonts in our admin drop down boxes. I appreciate this is of no concern to anyone else, but after an hour or so in use for me, trying to read this text does my eyes in.
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