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Jojo Yee 11. Oct 2010 02:12 PM

Ubuntu 10.10
 
Ubuntu 10.10 has arrived and ready for download.

Quote:

Focused on home and mobile computing users, Ubuntu 10.10 introduces an array of online and offline applications to Ubuntu Desktop Edition with a particular focus on the personal cloud... Ubuntu One, the personal cloud service for Ubuntu users, includes new services and expanded features, significant performance enhancements and interoperability with other operating systems including Google’s Android, Apple’s iPhone and Microsoft Windows...
Source: http://www.canonical.com/news/ubuntu-10.10-desktop

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eyeb 11. Oct 2010 04:26 PM

not so perfect for mee thouggh :S i had blank screeen using its netbook version

MidnightCowboy 11. Oct 2010 05:44 PM

My tech took one look at the PCLinuxOS installation I had just performed when he came round on Sunday insisted that I download Ubuntu 10.10 which had just been released. Having had a bad experience upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 I was less than enthusiastic but agreed to his request. So far the experience is 100% positive with no glitches. Needed a few extras to run some of my media files but these were all installed automatically after a prompt. Still get the odd flickering screen which I noticed with my previous Ubuntu installation so I'm assuming that this must be an OS "characteristic" :D

Apart from the slightly complicated and drawn out install process this really is such a complete solution now and I hope that it doesn't suddenly develop some of the issues I experienced last time.

wdhpr 11. Oct 2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jojoyee (Post 37976)
Ubuntu 10.10 has arrived and ready for download

I decided to finally try this version of Ubuntu. I have enjoyed Simply Mepis for its stability. However I still find doing things with multimedia, cd's & dvd's a drawn out process and frankly its just easier to boot back into Windows.

I will still make an image of my Mepis OS just in case. :eek:

Cheers
Wdhpr

wdhpr 12. Oct 2010 03:23 AM

So far this is going very well :)

I'm downloading the software I want, listening to my tunes and writing this on firefox all at the same time with not so much as a slow down. I really like the way Ubuntu will download all the stuff for your media and specific hardware needs at install.....SWEET

Wdhpr

bodis 12. Oct 2010 07:35 AM

I have just installed PClinuxOS yersterday as I have experienced as few issues with old ubuntu. Especially firefox was driving me mad. Is that still the case?

Should I switch back to ubuntu?

decisions decisions...

wdhpr 12. Oct 2010 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodis (Post 38019)
I have just installed PClinuxOS yersterday as I have experienced as few issues with old ubuntu. Especially firefox was driving me mad. Is that still the case?

Should I switch back to ubuntu?

decisions decisions...

I too experienced problems with the older versions of Ubuntu. I'm using an AMD Sempron machine (low end machine) with 2 gigs ram and a fairly good monitor. I was running Simply Mepis for years because of Ubuntu problems.
This version of Ubuntu 10.10 is making me very happy. I believe Jojoyee is the residential expert with Ubuntu and so you may want to wait for her advice. For me though this version has been a very pleasant and smooth experience. :)

Cheers
Wdhpr

MidnightCowboy 12. Oct 2010 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdhpr (Post 38020)
I believe Jojoyee is the residential expert with Ubuntu and so you may want to wait for her advice.

Jojo is actually a "him" :Dand has probably forgotten more about Linux than I will ever learn so yes he would be a good reference source :)

My previous encounter with Ubuntu started off well enough too and the problems only began developing after about two weeks use. I had a specific wireless modem recognition problem in that the (then) new Network manager would not always keep the connection but that now looks to be fixed big time :) Not only do you not have to script this thing any more to work, it actually set it up automatically when I plugged it in :) As yet though I haven't checked to see if it is actually connecting because my cable is 100% at the moment and I don't want to risk messing anything up. As soon as this goes down which is bound to happen at some point this week (LOL) then I'll switch over to the wireless and see what happens. This was a specific problem to me and therefore only affecting anyone else unlucky enough to have a SonyEriccson MD300 (Claro) modem.

The other issues I experienced were loss of settings and stability for Screenlets and program freezes including browser and OpenOffice. I guess I will need to run this installation for a month in order to see if the same scenario is likely to repeat itself. This has been a general issue with more than one Ubuntu distro as you will see reported in other places.

I also notice that it uses way more CPU than PCLinuxOS but still a lot less then Windows 7. My memory use for instance is between 8-10% with either Linux whereas this was nearer 30% with Windows 7. The pile of security apps needed for W7 would account for some of this, but not all.

Overall of the two, I really did like the KDE PCLinuxOS but the one noticeable thing for me was that the sound quality/volume was not as good as Ubuntu.

bodis 12. Oct 2010 09:10 AM

Well I will try to switch back to ubuntu, would be interesting to see how painfull the excercise will be. PClos switched to ubuntu like a charm with grub and everythin, hope the other way round would be as easy.

Jojo Yee 12. Oct 2010 09:10 AM

Yes and no. Yes it's "him" and no, he's no expert but a learner who likes to pick up something new. :D

My experience in previous two versions of Ubuntu was rather smooth. Firefox works very well for me and its start-up time is much shorter when running on Ubuntu than on Windows.

That is an added advantage to the shorter startup time for the Ubuntu system than Windows too. So +1 times two.

I just downloaded the ISO file for the 32-bit Ubuntu 10.10 system and will burn it to DVD today or tomorrow. My priority then is to go through the new features and check out these Tips and Tricks if they still work well, which I believe most of them will.

It's always good for sharing our experience in using something new. :)

bodis 12. Oct 2010 09:50 AM

How did you get Firefox working without a lag? Did you do any tweaking like disabling IPv6 and the rest that are all over the internet or did it just work fine from the box?

Just want to know if this is hardware related or a general linux problem. My firefox was really slow in ubuntu 10.04 and in PCLOS. I tried some of the tricks on the net but it increased the load time but not the browsing speed.

MC, how was your experience switching from pcls to ubuntu? I assume you have dual boot system in place.

regards
bodis

Jojo Yee 12. Oct 2010 10:50 AM

It just works fine out from the box after installation on a PC with connection to Internet via a modem router. It also works on another PC with connection via a LAN, but I needed to do some settings such as IP address, etc, which is about the same as I did for Windows.

Once the connection is up, both FF and Chrome run smoothly for me on Ubuntu.

bodis 12. Oct 2010 11:11 AM

Interesting, on my laptop with 10.04 firefox is very slow in rendering pages. I mean VERY slow. Did you experience that on 10.04 as well or has it always been fine for you?

Well if all else fails I will just install opera I guess.

Jojo Yee 12. Oct 2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodis (Post 38029)
Interesting, on my laptop with 10.04 firefox is very slow in rendering pages. I mean VERY slow. Did you experience that on 10.04 as well or has it always been fine for you?

Well if all else fails I will just install opera I guess.

It has always been fine for FF on Ubuntu to me. You might want to try out Chrome as well.

Jojo Yee 12. Oct 2010 03:19 PM

Now I'm running on Ubuntu 10.10 and write this post from the default browser Firefox 3.6.10.

The installation process was quicker and smoother than its previous version 10.04, particularly no more longer waiting time when it was about to finish installation, of course, with the default settings.

For this new version, while it asks you to enter location, username and password, it shows you that it continues to copy files from the ISO image to your harddisk.

A quick try to move the top panel to bottom and change the window control buttons from left to right using the Tips and Tricks as a guide and they work well so far.

Run the default Rhythmbox Music Player, it immediately tells you that you've not installed mp3 codec (I followed the default setting without opting for installing it during the installation of Ubuntu 10.10). It thus is smarter than the previous version. :)

Run the default video player and try to play an mp4, and it prompts me to install h.264 and mpeg4 acc decoders too. Hmmm, this round it says:

"Failed to fetch certain files... from repository ..." for a couple of times. :eek:

Looks like this problem is due to the server being busy according to this Ubuntu forum.

Will try it later and report back...

MidnightCowboy 12. Oct 2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodis (Post 38027)

MC, how was your experience switching from pcls to ubuntu? I assume you have dual boot system in place.

Nope, figured if I was going to go for it I might as well live with it as a single installation so I wiped the other completely :)

Firefox for me was fine but I prefer Chromium which is like lightening. I did also set up Opera and Seamonkey because I fancied the idea of an integrated mail client but didn't really like Opera and after just a day Seamonkey started running CPU at 50% and freezing so now I'm using Thunderbird. Heavens above too, the new mail notification works with Thunderbird which was another nerve racking experience to achieve with previous distros.

My mobile broadband also works without issue alongside the fixed cable connection and I can swap between the two easily. With 9.04 and 9.10 my tech spent ages scripting the mobile broadband to work and even then the Network Manager used to throw out the connection whenever it felt like it.

Now here's a funny thing. Also downloaded the KDE version Kubuntu and ran it from a live CD. The mobile broadband which was always a pain to set up connects out straight away but it doesn't see my wired connection. How daft is that? So, overall Ubuntu has the edge for me over Kubuntu unless you need more fancy graphics with your games.

Conclusion: So far still a winning experience :D

bodis 12. Oct 2010 10:02 PM

Well I have just tried MEPIS from live USB and to my disappointment it has failed to find my wireless card so that was that... Back to PCLOS at the moment trying it out and cant decide if to switch back to ubuntu or not. Had a bad experience trying to install opera yesterday but chromium installed without no problem, I think I need extra repositories for opera.

Decisions Decisions...

I just cant understand why my machine is slow on firefox when everyone elses seems to be fine.

wdhpr 12. Oct 2010 11:38 PM

My sincere apologies Jojoyee.:o

I will follow the link you provided with instructions on how to move the top panel to the bottom. Its hard to change old windows habits :)

Other than that I have not seen any chinks in the armour. Its worrying because I'm expecting the shoe to drop but as of now no problems at all. (Knock on wood).

As I mentioned in the earlier post, the install was flawless tying up all the loose ends during the process. I have been installing software using ubuntu's installer as well as synaptics. Which brings up a question. Have you experienced any problems with software coming from the synapitc installer?

I plan on booting into Ubuntu as much as possible for awhile so I can take it for a thorough test drive. I will be sure to ask for help if I hit the wall.
So far this has been like playing with a new toy:D

Cheers
Wdhpr

wdhpr 13. Oct 2010 12:53 AM

Well this didnt take long.

I attempted to enable the windows 7 superbar and I ran into a dependecie error as follows:

Selecting previously deselected package dockbarx.
(Reading database ... 154880 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking dockbarx (from dockbarx_0.30.0-0~ppa0_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package gnome-dockbarx-applet.
Unpacking gnome-dockbarx-applet (from gnome-dockbarx-applet_0.30.0-0~ppa0_all.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of dockbarx:
dockbarx depends on python-gnome2-desktop; however:
Package python-gnome2-desktop is not installed.
dpkg: error processing dockbarx (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnome-dockbarx-applet:
gnome-dockbarx-applet depends on dockbarx; however:
Package dockbarx is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing gnome-dockbarx-applet (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
dockbarx
gnome-dockbarx-applet

From what I'm seeing its depends on the python-gnome2-desktop being installed. What I found and installed was python-gnome2-desktop dev. After which I still recieved the above error.

Cheers
Wdhpr

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdhpr (Post 38070)
... I have been installing software using ubuntu's installer as well as synaptics. Which brings up a question. Have you experienced any problems with software coming from the synapitc installer?

You're welcome wdhpr.

More often I install software via Ubuntu Software Center as that's more straight forward and user friendly, but I also use Synaptic Package Manager when I need to deal with some package details.

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdhpr (Post 38074)
I attempted to enable the windows 7 superbar and I ran into a dependecie error...

Looks like there's a bug report to say that python-gnome2-desktop dependency is deprecated. So I believe that the DockBarX Applet doesn't work with those steps for Ubuntu 10.10.

Will report back if I've found a solution.

wdhpr 13. Oct 2010 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jojoyee (Post 38076)
Looks like there's a bug report to say that python-gnome2-desktop dependency is deprecated. So I believe that the DockBarX Applet doesn't work with those steps for Ubuntu 10.10.

Will report back if I've found a solution.

Thanks for the quick response:)

I found the fix by going to the source. Their website
I followed these instructions before going onto the rest of the procedure.
Install python-wnck, python-gnomeapplet, python-keybinder and python-numpy (DockbarX might be able to run without python-numpy, but it shouldn't hurt).

Cheers
Wdhpr

bodis 13. Oct 2010 06:16 AM

Well well well...

I am happy... for now...

I have just booted from Ubuntu usb and firefox works like a charm.I think thats good enough reason to switch back as my experience last time was bumpy mainly on browsing side, even chromium playing up.

And after trying 4 different distro's in the last 4 days it is so nice to be back to familiar system.

EDIT:
Another thought - the first thing I always do with Firefox is install WOT, Adblock and Noscript. Wondering if these could have caused all my trouble before

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 07:51 AM

"Failed to download repository information"
 
Have been encountering this error "Failed to download repository information" while trying to download files to test out the Trips and Tricks so needed to KIV those related probably until the server is not that busy. So far even the mp4 codec and Storage Device Manager failed to download from the depositories after several attempts while there's no issue on the Internet connection. :o

wdhpr 13. Oct 2010 07:56 AM

I'm thinking about reinstalling.

It seems there have been some major changes to Ubuntu 10.10 that causes it not to work with the older version tweeks. No problem though... been down this road before. I'm thinking next time I'll just go ahead and make an image of the virgin OS afterwards incrementals until I'm feeling confident I have it right.

Cheers
Wdhpr

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 08:33 AM

Downloading Chrome 6.0 via Ubuntu Software Center experienced the same issue reported in my last post. Anyway I got it downloaded straight from the Chrome website and installed it.

Syncing bookmarks, autofill, extensions, preference and themes went through smoothly after setting up the built-in Sync with my gmail a/c id and password.

Now I have the same settings in Chrome across Ubuntu and Windows and on different PCs. :)

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdhpr (Post 38090)
It seems there have been some major changes to Ubuntu 10.10 that causes it not to work with the older version tweeks. No problem though... been down this road before. I'm thinking next time I'll just go ahead and make an image of the virgin OS afterwards incrementals until I'm feeling confident I have it right.

My first thought was to upgrade the existing Ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10, but after second thought, I've actually installed the new version on a new partition while the old version is still bootable from another partition. ;)

MidnightCowboy 13. Oct 2010 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jojoyee (Post 38092)
Downloading Chrome 6.0 via Ubuntu Software Center experienced the same issue reported in my last post. Anyway I got it downloaded straight from the Chrome website and installed it.

Strange, but I didn't have this problem although I did hit a major issue last night.

Yesterday was a holiday here so Monica was in movie mood and Ubuntu would only play about 30 seconds of The Salton Sea before the movie player crashed. Thinking this might be codec related I downloaded VLC but this was the same. Slight jumpiness in the video although the sound was fine. Also tried copying the file from my external drive where these are stored onto the PC itself but still the same. In the end I gave up, ran PCLinuxOS from the live CD and the movie played perfectly :)

I'll try playing files in other formats today but this looks like it might be a graphics driver issue. I have to say anyway that the video quality with PCLinuxOS is higher on this machine so maybe their component choice is better suited to my motherboard. I'm also encountering the odd screen "flash" from time to time which again points in this direction.

Can I also ask if others with 10.10 are getting several screen flashes during the boot process while the Ubuntu splash screen is visible?

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MidnightCowboy (Post 38097)
Can I also ask if others with 10.10 are getting several screen flashes during the boot process while the Ubuntu splash screen is visible?

The boot process looks good to me for Ubuntu 10.10, even the system shutdown seems to be faster than 10.04, which had already been faster than Win7. :D

My only issue now is downloading software from the Ubuntu Software Center which seems to have always failed to download the repository info. :eek:

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 10:59 AM

In 10.04, the Ubuntu Software Center gives an "Install" button once you've got a search result.

Now 10.10, looks like it's replaced the Install button with the "More Info" button. After clicking the button, it shows where the software comes from, then I have to click "Use This Source" button, after which I'm greeted with a pop-up window that says "Failed to download repository information", and "Check your Internet connection". (But my Internet connection is perfectly ok, otherwise I won't be able to post this. :eek::D:rolleyes:)

When click on Details, it shows a long list of the following:

Quote:

W:Failed to fetch http://my.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...rce/Sources.gz 403 Forbidden
, W:Failed to fetch http://my.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...rce/Sources.gz 403 Forbidden
...
...
...
, E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
Has anyone experienced the same?

Jojo Yee 13. Oct 2010 04:01 PM

Wow, solved one issue.

After selecting Ubuntun Software Center, click "Edit", select Software Sources, then change Download from a local server to the Main Server, and now I can download files from the Center without seeing the error message "Failed to download repository information".

This is new to me, but solved. :)

wdhpr 13. Oct 2010 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jojoyee (Post 38076)
Looks like there's a bug report to say that python-gnome2-desktop dependency is deprecated. So I believe that the DockBarX Applet doesn't work with those steps for Ubuntu 10.10.

Will report back if I've found a solution.

I just decided to go with Docky. I liked DockbarX but it was too buggy on my system for some reason. Perhaps it maybe a version conflict 10.04 to 10.10.
Anyway I went ahead and reinstalled Ubuntu 10.10 as a dualboot computer. I even decide to use grub2 and so far its working fine.

Cheers
Wdhpr

bodis 14. Oct 2010 06:35 AM

Well I finally have a system that works. Ubuntu installed without a hitch and it seems faster now in startup time than 10.04. Also my biggest fix was that firefox seems to work without any lags. And it comes with movie players preinstalled.

I am happy now... for a while :)

Jojo Yee 14. Oct 2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jojoyee (Post 38110)
Now 10.10, looks like it's replaced the Install button with the "More Info" button. After clicking the button, it shows where the software comes from, then I have to click "Use This Source" button, after which...

Oops, I note that the "Install" button only appears when the Ubuntu Software Center has obtained the info from the Software Source. :)

Jojo Yee 15. Oct 2010 04:27 AM

Ubuntu Software Center now handles Debian Pakages
 
In this new version, Ubuntu Software Center also handles .deb file installation. When you double click a .deb file, it opens in Ubuntu Software Center for you to run the installation. :)

wdhpr 15. Oct 2010 05:50 AM

I am very impressed how configurable Ubuntu 10.10 is.

Something that may throw the new user is that its easy to think they erased something our deleted a setting and when the go to the help forum they either can't find anything to address the problem or they get this long drawn out command line procedure. In most cases they accidentally deleted a tool-bar applet. If they stay calm they will find its super easy to fix by accessing the tool-bar applets by left clicking the tool-bar and adding an applet or by modifying the already active applet.

Because of things like this. I find Ubuntu's support very much inept.

Cheers
Wdhpr

bodis 15. Oct 2010 07:25 AM

Also just tried the default Ubuntu Mail application (cant remember the name, not at home), I am very please how easy it was to set up and with the options to backup and restore your profiles. I prefer it over Thunderbird now as last thunderbird was a pain to set up.

wdhpr 15. Oct 2010 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodis (Post 38218)
Also just tried the default Ubuntu Mail application (cant remember the name, not at home), I am very please how easy it was to set up and with the options to backup and restore your profiles. I prefer it over Thunderbird now as last thunderbird was a pain to set up.

Actually I found the opposite. With thunderbird all I had to do is enter my e-mail address and password. Thunderbird did the rest.

Evolution prompted me to enter all the settings and then the password wallet insisted to keep my e-mail password. Although Evolution did work well. I'm just used to thunderbird and I like the calendar addon.

Cheers
Wdhpr

Jojo Yee 15. Oct 2010 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodis (Post 38218)
Also just tried the default Ubuntu Mail application (cant remember the name, not at home), I am very please how easy it was to set up and with the options to backup and restore your profiles. I prefer it over Thunderbird now as last thunderbird was a pain to set up.

I think that's "Evolution Mail and Calendar", a useful email client.

Jojo Yee 15. Oct 2010 08:24 AM

Supports multi-touch and other new features
 
A notable new feature for Ubuntu 10.10 is supporting multi-touch out of the box for the Netbook Edition. Desktop Edition can be installed by using the terminal command "sudo apt-get install utouch" (without quote), but I don't have a multi-touch monitor for PC yet, other than a smaller Droidpad.

Other features noted in this new release of Ubuntu:
  • Revampled installer
  • More new wallpapers
  • Ubuntu font
  • OneConf to sync installed multiple apps
  • Revampled Ubuntu Software Center
  • Support for commercial apps :rolleyes:
  • Revamped Indicator Applet
  • Ubuntu One to stream music to your Android or iPhone, etc.

See also:
What's New In Both Desktop and Netbook Editions
Ubuntu 10.10 under the hood, feature tour and included apps


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