A Question To Ponder...

lonny · 05. Jul 2010, 07:10 PM

Why have so many distros jumped off the Titanic Ubuntu ship.

And returned to Home Port Debian, in a speedboat.

Two examples: Mepis, Linux Mint

Interesting...huh?

1002richards · 05. Jul 2010, 07:59 PM

I found this suggestion:
"PN: For myself, it is not really a question of what it is about the Debian Squeeze release in particular, but more a question about the different approaches taken by the Debian and Ubuntu projects. Unlike the Ubuntu project, Debian does not have a commercial sponsor with any commercial interests. This was never an issue for myself, until recently when Canonical seem to have become less of a sponsor and more of a governing party; I know this is debatable, but I believe that some of their recent decisions might not necessarily have been made with the best interest of their users/community at heart.

From a less political perspective, the Ubuntu project is geared towards producing a polished end-user system. The Ubuntu developers make changes to Debian packages to achieve this goal. These changes often cause problems for derivative projects such CrunchBang. Therefore, the obvious thing to do to negate these problems was to make the switch to Debian.

Also, I would not like for anyone to misunderstand my words and so I think I should point out that I do not think there is anything wrong with the Ubuntu project. As a full Ubuntu member myself, I believe that the project has admirable goals. I am particularly in favour of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct document, both because of what it stands for and because of what has been achieved because of it."

Here: http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot....-explains.html

wdhpr · 05. Jul 2010, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lonny

Why have so many distros jumped off the Titanic Ubuntu ship.

And returned to Home Port Debian, in a speedboat.

Two examples: Mepis, Linux Mint

Interesting...huh?

I run puppy linux off a usb stick and I love it. I also have Ubuntu loaded on another USB stick and can boot to it just fine I can also save my settings.

However my main linux platform remains Mepis. It resides on my second internal hardrive. I just can't justify a reason for switching to Ubuntu. bells and whistles aside Ubuntu just is not as stable as Mepis. I know there are plenty counter views to this statement but Mepis has just always worked for me.

I look at Ubuntu as a slick looking production car. Sadly whats under the hood leaves much to be desired. I will take stability that comes with Mepis any day over Ubuntu's latest and greatest.

Cheers
Wdhpr

lonny · 22. Jul 2010, 05:30 PM

i see the new Ubuntu Lucid reply to

cat /etc/debian_version= squeeze/sid

NO complaints on Ubuntu, it serves the linux purpose.

Doobie · 27. Jul 2010, 07:18 AM

It looks like interest in Ubuntu peaked in 2007, held steady for a while, and now has slightly decreased. But, Debian is has been on a decline for all eternity, and continues the slide. For anyone interested, every other distro falls a distant third to these two.

I think what has changed recently is that Ubuntu is becoming less of a Debian-based distro. As overwhelmingly popular Ubuntu is with the public, the loyalty of many developers lays with Debian. If Ubuntu leaves Debian, it goes alone.

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05. Jul 2010, 07:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
1002richards Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sussex, UK. Posts: 197	I found this suggestion: "PN: For myself, it is not really a question of what it is about the Debian Squeeze release in particular, but more a question about the different approaches taken by the Debian and Ubuntu projects. Unlike the Ubuntu project, Debian does not have a commercial sponsor with any commercial interests. This was never an issue for myself, until recently when Canonical seem to have become less of a sponsor and more of a governing party; I know this is debatable, but I believe that some of their recent decisions might not necessarily have been made with the best interest of their users/community at heart. From a less political perspective, the Ubuntu project is geared towards producing a polished end-user system. The Ubuntu developers make changes to Debian packages to achieve this goal. These changes often cause problems for derivative projects such CrunchBang. Therefore, the obvious thing to do to negate these problems was to make the switch to Debian. Also, I would not like for anyone to misunderstand my words and so I think I should point out that I do not think there is anything wrong with the Ubuntu project. As a full Ubuntu member myself, I believe that the project has admirable goals. I am particularly in favour of the Ubuntu Code of Conduct document, both because of what it stands for and because of what has been achieved because of it." Here: http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot....-explains.html

22. Jul 2010, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
lonny Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 68	i see the new Ubuntu Lucid reply to cat /etc/debian_version= squeeze/sid NO complaints on Ubuntu, it serves the linux purpose.

27. Jul 2010, 07:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
Doobie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 110	It looks like interest in Ubuntu peaked in 2007, held steady for a while, and now has slightly decreased. But, Debian is has been on a decline for all eternity, and continues the slide. For anyone interested, every other distro falls a distant third to these two. I think what has changed recently is that Ubuntu is becoming less of a Debian-based distro. As overwhelmingly popular Ubuntu is with the public, the loyalty of many developers lays with Debian. If Ubuntu leaves Debian, it goes alone.