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Old 10. Dec 2009, 10:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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With Windows 7, Microsoft is asserting legal control over your computer and is using this power to abuse computer users.
"The Free Software Foundation lists seven examples of abuse committed by Microsoft."

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My view has started to change, as I used to be a Linux "fanboy" and touted the evil abuses of Micro$oft, but you might say I've mellowed out quite a bit since then.
There has been a growing movement toward Linux which has no foreseeable end. IMHO Linux is superior in most aspects which insures it's slow but steady climb.
Micro$oft will continue to "do what ever it takes" to remain the world leader (as far as desktop Operating Systems are concerned) and I would expect nothing less, but the truth remains that quality and price are every consumers concern and Linux (IMHO) has better quality and you can't get cheaper than free. The truth is, that Micro$oft is currently on top, but when your on top the only place to go is down, so they continue to fight the Linux wave anyway they can. I wish them luck, because I know how this story ends.
The only undetermined variable in the OS market is the Cloud Based OS.
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Old 10. Dec 2009, 03:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just to add, If all new games was built to run on a certain distro, or more...just saying if it was a possibility, a lot more people would move to Linux. Or even pay a small amount towards such a Distro.

There is nothing that you can't do with a Linux system that Windows can do, in fact Linux does it better. True Microsoft brainwashes from the start in schools, i mean speak to people about running Linux on their system, i mean most people and they would look at you if you are crazy. It all comes down to, we are afraid of the unknown and we tend to stay with what we know. (Microsoft) Myself use both Linux and Windows. I strayed into the Linux environment after years and years on Microsoft, because of one reason curiosity. Since then i got the utmost respect for Linux, respectively of what Distro.

I can't see Linux becoming number one O.S in the future anytime soon, if at all. Getting past that 7 sins is quite a hurdle for Linux seeing that Linux source is free. That is what make Linux so wonderful, because of choice, free open source code
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Old 10. Dec 2009, 04:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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We could spend years talking about the rights and wrongs of Microsoft, it won't change things and having just spent all the money I had on a license for Windows 7 Ultimate I probably fit into the not very happy category.

For my sins I now support the server that TSA runs on. It is of course Linux based and I don't have a problem with that. Why though do I carry out all my support work using Windows 7. SSH, SFTP, standards, but with Windows clients that are smarter and much faster than anything I can get if I reboot into Ubuntu 9.10.

I'd like to spend all my time using Ubuntu, trouble is compared to Windows 7 it sucks

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We could spend years talking about the rights and wrongs of Microsoft, it won't change things and having just spent all the money I had on a license for Windows 7 Ultimate I probably fit into the not very happy category.

For my sins I now support the server that TSA runs on. It is of course Linux based and I don't have a problem with that. Why though do I carry out all my support work using Windows 7. SSH, SFTP, standards, but with Windows clients that are smarter and much faster than anything I can get if I reboot into Ubuntu 9.10.

I'd like to spend all my time using Ubuntu, trouble is compared to Windows 7 it sucks

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I spend all my time supporting *nix servers. I do this from Windows 7, using free tools, as this environment is far better than a Ubuntu desktop.

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Shout free software, I don't give a s**t, I can get free software for Windows. I want everything to work together, or be able to get it to. Why is there no AutoHotKey for Linux? Last time I looked the excuse was X was broken in that respect. Say what? Go away and come back when you've grown up.

If I've got it wrong and there is a distro that will fix all these ills and install on a shared RAID 1 array, without killing Windows, then I'd love to here about it. Must be 64 bit of course

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I spend all my time supporting *nix servers. I do this from Windows 7, using free tools, as this environment is far better than a Ubuntu desktop.

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Shout free software, I don't give a s**t, I can get free software for Windows. I want everything to work together, or be able to get it to. Why is there no AutoHotKey for Linux? Last time I looked the excuse was X was broken in that respect. Say what? Go away and come back when you've grown up.

If I've got it wrong and there is a distro that will fix all these ills and install on a shared RAID 1 array, without killing Windows, then I'd love to here about it. Must be 64 bit of course
As much as I hate to admit it, rikmayell has a point. I sometimes wonder if (lets say) Ubuntu charged 20 dollars for every distro. Would this then provide the resources for them to hire top rate tech's? 20 dollars is next to nothing compared to what Win 7 cost's.

Please don't get me wrong. I love linux (not much of a Ubuntu fan) But Ubuntu being the most popular that is the OS I would choose. I have a saying: The road to ruin is paved with good intentions.
That is what I feel is hampering Linux. That is also the same thing that would outrage the vast majority of linux users. I have spent more then 20 bucks on apps I use with Windows more than a few times. Was also happy I did. Come on folks maybe some cash to support linux would help them compete better.

Just a rambling thought.

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Why is there no AutoHotKey for Linux?
Can this be useful? AutoHotkey Replacement for Linux / How to Activate Applications with Hot Keys
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Shout free software, I don't give a s**t, I can get free software for Windows. I want everything to work together, or be able to get it to. Why is there no AutoHotKey for Linux? Last time I looked the excuse was X was broken in that respect. Say what? Go away and come back when you've grown up.
It's good that Windows is working for you , and I think we are all lucky that FOSS (Free Open Source Software) exists for people who use either platform. It's not exactly fair how Windows benefits from FOSS without giving a proportional contribution (or any contribution) back to the FOSS community, but nothing is fair.

Why is there no AutoHotKey for Linux??
Don't know... why is there no CSH or TCSH for Windows, I use it on Linux??
I still think Windows is "grown up" even though they don't have a C shell.
They are making strides toward the BASH shell with their Power shell, but they have a long way to go.

By doing a quick search, there are a few linux based alternatives to AutoHotKey (which I have not tested, nor do I know if they work), but there are alternatives and (IMHO) that's what Linux on the desktop is all about, an alternative so you can use your Windows and I can use my Linux without either of us being FORCED to use something we don't like.
Here is a keyboard/mouse binding alternative:
http://www.nongnu.org/xbindkeys/xbindkeys.html
and here is a macro creating alternative:
http://xmacro.sourceforge.net/

Now if I could go to my local retail store and get a computer without having Window's pre-installed...
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Old 11. Dec 2009, 05:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The 'get a bare PC from my local store' I can relate to. Why pay for an OS when you're never going to use it?

My point about AutoHotKey seems upon reflection to be trivial since I generally use the 'hot keys' feature to achieve much of what I would use AutoHotKey for; simply attach a call to a script to a key combination. This leaves just a few things I'm unable to do unless I write the code myself. I suppose that's no big deal, but I really didn't expect to read that certain parts of the X Windows event handling system are broken. It's just not the sort of thing you associate with Linux.

On a lighter note, I seem to remember a quotation something along the lines of 'if you can keep them talking about you kid, you've made it.' Well safe to say with Ubuntu 9.10, despite its' faults, Linux has definitely made it.

As a last note. As I have all the FREE development tools, the experience, training and an axe to grind, perhaps I should shut up and get involved in the development Bet that frightened you....

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