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Old 11. Dec 2009, 09:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The fact is Linux is more stable than Windows...My opinion.
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Old 11. Dec 2009, 10:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The fact is Linux is more stable than Windows...My opinion.
True, but Linux doesn't give you a 'red hot' graphics driver on a bare install, nor does it come with drivers for your web enabled electronic egg cup. Windows 7 now ships with drivers for half a million third party products. All code NOT written by MS. Small wonder its' unstable.

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True, but Linux doesn't give you a 'red hot' graphics driver on a bare install, nor does it come with drivers for your web enabled electronic egg cup. Windows 7 now ships with drivers for half a million third party products. All code NOT written by MS. Small wonder its' unstable.
"red hot graphics driver" ya right with terrible gaming performance out the box, 99.9 % of people would install their display driver from the hardware vendor.
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"red hot graphics driver" ya right with terrible gaming performance out the box, 99.9 % of people would install their display driver from the hardware vendor.
Yes of course they would. Taking such a comment out of context, as you did, is called 'statistical framing.' I believe that there are those in the US that make a small fortune out of doing this.

No comment I note on Windows vs Linux driver support?

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Yes of course they would. Taking such a comment out of context, as you did, is called 'statistical framing.' I believe that there are those in the US that make a small fortune out of doing this.

No comment I note on Windows vs Linux driver support?

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True better driver support on Windows platform, but Ubuntu has narrowed that gap quite well. At the end of the day, it's about what works for you or a company. After all that is what I.T is all about, providing solutions for you and company's.
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True better driver support on Windows platform, but Ubuntu has narrowed that gap quite well. At the end of the day, it's about what works for you or a company. After all that is what I.T is all about, providing solutions for you and company's.
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Default Linus Torvalds/Linux: Not the story of computers.

Linux is a great tool -- especially the Live CD -- and has gotten to the point where an end-user can comfortably use a Desktop distro; incredibly powerful operating systems big enough to be comparable to the big guys.

What I find irritating about Linux cultists is two-fold:
1) The shafting of the real innovators
* Without Unix, Microsoft, Sun, IBM, Adobe, etc -- Linux wouldn't exist. It does not create or innovate new technology. Microsoft, being a giant corporation is easy to villify. But do not forget this is one of the most innovating and history-changing companies of all-time.

2) The blindness that many Linux distros and software are ran and owned by corporations.
* Ubuntu is not open-source, for example. Canonical LTD. also owns every project on Launchpad technically. Last year Canonical LTD grossed $30 million with 200 employees. Zoroastrian Zebra will be for sale at Wal-mart, not a downloadable image.

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* Ubuntu is not open-source, for example. Canonical LTD. also owns every project on Launchpad technically. Last year Canonical LTD grossed $30 million with 200 employees. Zoroastrian Zebra will be for sale at Wal-mart, not a downloadable image.
This is the very thing that keeps me questioning: Whats in it for them (the Linux distro creators?)

In my humble opinion Ubuntu is not ready for prime time. The distro's are buggy and the updates are even worse. Their own brand of chaos I can't imagine the average user being able to over come these obstacles.

With that out of the way I can also say that I have a dual booting computer Windows and Linux.

The question remains whats in it for them? Would it be better to charge a modest sum for a more highly polished version of Linux. I believe at some point complete linux distro's will cease to be free, of course there will always be off-shoots and watered down versions that will remain free. Anyone care to share an opinion on this.

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Hi wdhpr,
Thanks for your comment on that other thread

You bring up a good point and there does seem to be a movement or compromise by
some distribution creators not to reject everything that isn't free,
open source and under a particular license.
On the other hand, Debian comes to mind... Ice Weasel vs. Firefox.
Trademarks and supplied binaries were the problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla...Debian_project

This project will always be free and open source:
http://www.gnu.org/

I'm not a complete free open source (foss) fanboy, but it's a good feeling to know
I'll never end up in court over some fine print in the agreement or if my computer crashes,
I can install my software on the new machine again without breaking any agreement.

I do favour free open source alternatives and agree that they don't always work and still
have a ways to go, but I'm patient and (foss) has come a hell of a long way so far.

Not sure exactly what's in it for them, but I'm glad they keep their soup kitchen open.
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This is the very thing that keeps me questioning: Whats in it for them (the Linux distro creators?)

In my humble opinion Ubuntu is not ready for prime time. The distro's are buggy and the updates are even worse. Their own brand of chaos I can't imagine the average user being able to over come these obstacles.

With that out of the way I can also say that I have a dual booting computer Windows and Linux.

The question remains whats in it for them? Would it be better to charge a modest sum for a more highly polished version of Linux. I believe at some point complete linux distro's will cease to be free, of course there will always be off-shoots and watered down versions that will remain free. Anyone care to share an opinion on this.

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Well if you look at Red Hat Enterprise, that is not free anymore.(pay for support) I could remember that was my first Linux Distro that i have played with in a virtual machine. I was 20,21 at the time i am now turning 28

Maybe some will become commercial, but there will always be a lot of free Distro's. Main reason because the very heart of linux code is free! That will never change. Or so i hope If not dual booting, at least run a virtual machine of a Linux distro yes.

"Linux is a free Unix-type operating system originally created by Linus Torvalds with the assistance of developers around the world. Developed under the GNU General Public License , the source code for Linux is freely available to everyone. "

Ubuntu for example will always be free of charge, that is on of the promises on their official website.

Take a look here http://www.gnu.org/

Maybe this will give you clarity on your question?
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