Kubuntu 9.10

[debtboy]

Hello everyone,
it looks as if Linux has become slightly more popular than when I was here last.

nice thread...

Keep in mind, you can use Gnome with built-in KDE applications
and vice-versa, same goes for most all environments and window managers.

Many of the independent window managers would be somewhat empty
without a few Gnome and/or KDE apps.
(except for the very minimal ones, where the console is king)

[Jojo Yee]

Originally Posted by debtboy

Hello everyone,
it looks as if Linux has become slightly more popular than when I was here last.

nice thread...

Keep in mind, you can use Gnome with built-in KDE applications
and vice-versa, same goes for most all environments and window managers.

Yes, debtboy, welcome back. Have not seen your new posts for some time. Am running Firefox on so-called "Ubuntu - KDE Edition", I still need some time to conquer the Konqueror!

After installing KDE package, when booting up to Ubuntu, it shows Kubuntu boot screen briefly before switching back to Ubuntu log in screen, from there I am able to choose either Gnome or KDE session to log in. I find KDE session closer to Win7. At least from the "Kickoff Application Launcher", it has a search box, similar to Vista/Win7. Upon leaving KDE session, I can't directly shutdown. It needs me to log off, going back to Ubuntu log-in screen, then there's a button to shutdown... unless I missed out something?

BTW, these are three articles recently added to the Linux Section:

Best Free Software for Linux
Tips and Tricks for Ubuntu after Installation
Easy Way to Install Ubuntu - from within Windows

Welcome your input, wiki style.

[debtboy]

Thanks for the welcome back , very kind of you.

Konqueror is a good browser, but I use it mostly for ftp drag and drop transfers.

Those links are awesome, so much information!!
You're an Ubuntu guru

[Jojo Yee]

Originally Posted by debtboy

Those links are awesome, so much information!!
You're an Ubuntu guru

hmmm, tech is changing and improving each day so much so that nobody can claim to be a guru, all are learners... learning from each other.

[MidnightCowboy]

It seems the latest releases of this once great distro continue to head downhill.

"I heard there's been a change of management with the Kubuntu community or some sort like that. Well, perhaps it's for the greater good. I am quite close to abandoning Kubuntu forever. Much like PCLinuxOS, it's slowly creeping toward irrelevance, offering none of the love and fire that you'd want and expect. It's exhausted, it's defeated. It just doesn't try to win you in any way. It's there because it exists. Nothing more.

Moreover, there's the matter of inconsistency. I mentioned this before, and I will mention it again. I absolutely loathe when things break in between releases. Small, simple things. Like Samba or printing or codecs. Why? WHY? WHY! How difficult is it to try to offer a sane, steady user experience? Why do I have to dread every single update? You can never really know. One version, things work, and then they don't. Samba sharing. Year 2015. How difficult can it be to copy files from one frigging computer to another without problems? It's not like sending probes to Mars. Just a bloody copy operation, source destination. Simple.

On top of that, Kubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf literally fails in every aspect. It's totally useless, it's buggy, it's crashy, and it offers nothing that would make it even remotely interesting. Nothing useful or practical about it really. Nothing. I'm sad. And angry. Avoid at all costs. 0/10. Bye bye now".

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/k...-werewolf.html

[Remah]

Originally Posted by MidnightCowboy

It seems the latest releases of this once great distro continue to head downhill.

MC, why are you smiling - isn't that bad news?

You resurrected this thread only to nail Kubuntu into a coffin with Dedoimedo's article. Very entertaining.

[MidnightCowboy]

Originally Posted by Remah

MC, why are you smiling - isn't that bad news?

You resurrected this thread only to nail Kubuntu into a coffin with Dedoimedo's article. Very entertaining.

I accept my sense of humor will likely not match with everyone else's but if you don't smile at something like this, there is only crying or jumping off a tall building left as alternatives. So many times we see the Linux community shooting their own feet or otherwise pressing the self destruct button and now Kubuntu has followed suit. It remains a popular choice however and is one of the most likely results for KDE searches. On this basis I felt the shortcomings of the latest release should be highlighted here if only to save some folks a lot of wasted time.

[wdhpr]

Email in response to Dedoimedo's review of Kubuntu 15.10 Wily Werewolf.

"Damn, did you have issues with this release or what.
Anyway thanks for plowing the road it looks like I'll skip this upgrade.
Bummer though, Kubuntu had such a bright future. I hope they get their act together".

[Joe A.TT]

Originally Posted by Jojo Yee

One of the disadvantages of Gnome desktop environment used by Ubuntu 9.10 is that it can't remember the position of the window. I need to drag it from to time to time to the place I want when I open it. To my surprise, it says "the author of Gnome decided that it was not the job of the window manager to determine where windows would pop up".

I hope nobody minds but this issue is simply too amazing to ignore. Can you imagine that this issue existed since 2008 and it still hasn't been resolved? I mean duh, duh, splutter, splutter... can you? And as if that isn't enough fast forward 7 years later and LM 17.2/3 now comes with an option to always open windows in the center of the screen but that is buggy too. What the heck is going on? And in case you're wondering, not even devilspie can fix it. I know, I tried. Holy crap! What an issue.