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Old 30. Oct 2009, 11:50 PM   #31 (permalink)
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MC, I think we concur on preferring Ubuntu to Windows. Unfortunately there are many out there who would disagree with us.
That's why I have been running mepis going on three years now. 3 major updates and haven't skipped a beat.

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Old 31. Oct 2009, 12:22 AM   #32 (permalink)
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MC, I think we concur on preferring Ubuntu to Windows. Unfortunately there are many out there who would disagree with us. Stack the numbers up.

As you have pointed out many times in your posts it is what works 'for you' that counts.

We know we're right, just waiting for the rest of the world to catch up...

Still waiting for the download to finish (:

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If I'm honest, in my past life when I had less time I would not have bothered to learn how to work with Ubuntu. I'm not back-tracking now and saying that it's much more complicated than Windows because for many of the usual functions it's not, but for sure Windows is still very much "out of the box" whereas Linux is still very much "in your face".

I'm feeling even more of a dumbo now because I've since learned that I miss-read one of the windows during the upgrade process which offered to retain my network management settings or install the updated ones. Thinking "new" would be "better", all I succeeded in doing was wiping my Claro configs. So, if I had been more awake and less smart I could have had a perfect upgrade and not had to pay Son of Samba to come here tomorrow and fix it
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Old 31. Oct 2009, 03:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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If I'm honest, in my past life when I had less time I would not have bothered to learn how to work with Ubuntu... but for sure Windows is still very much "out of the box" whereas Linux is still very much "in your face".
Your statement is PERFECT.

A few years back, when I tried on Linux, after booting, it gave me a command line asking for a password. What password? I even had not done anything.

Now it's a nice GUI, almost on par with Windows. I see Ubuntu as my alternative OS which is free and maintained by Ubuntu Foundation.

I replaced Ubuntu 9.04 with Ubuntu 9.10, and got a nicer log-in interface. Other areas need to explore and see how much better.

My latest finding on the issue of reading files from USB thumb drive is posted on another thread here.
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Old 31. Oct 2009, 09:36 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Download finished.

After a restart I'm finding it much quicker than the beta I had installed and of course doing Linux server admin is much easier if you're running Linux desktop.

Overall I'm impressed but it still isn't as slick as Windows 7 although we've already visited ways that the interface can be improved.

I still prefer Linux to Windows, but I don't think this is the 'Windows killer' that has been touted on the web?

My 2 cents worth

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Default Ubuntu 9.10 + free > Windows 7 + $$$

After installing GStreamer extra plugins and GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin from Ubuntu Software Center, it respectively plays mp3 and mp4 smoothly with the pre-installed Rhythmbox Music Player and Movie Player.

Changing a wallaper with a new jpg file edited with the pre-installed GIMP image editor runs satisfactorily. There're also many pre-installed good games too.

Looks like it's the FREE world now, right from the OS up to the pre-installed free applications. They are almost equivalent to, if not better than the commercial software.

I would put it this way, to the level of my satisfaction:

Windows 7 > Ubuntu 9.10

BUT,

Ubuntu 9.10 + free > Windows 7 + $$$
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Ubuntu 9.10 + free > Windows 7 + $$$
And that is what clinches it. Very nicely put.

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So, if I had been more awake and less smart I could have had a perfect upgrade and not had to pay Son of Samba to come here tomorrow and fix it
If it's any consolation I do things like this myself. When it happens I always get the 'oh no' feeling just after I've click OK or whatever. That doesn't help, always swear I won't do it again, unfortunately I do.

Don't worry, I'll be much more careful doing site admin stuff.

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As I write my tech guy still hasn't showed up but now I'm getting some other issues too. When I boot into Ubuntu the icon hangs for maybe a full minute then I get the following:

can't access some files (loads of figures) or other followed by:

Stopping Firestarter firewall
Starting App Armor profiles
Setting sensor limits
Starting Firestarter firewall
Starting MTA
Starting Disc temperature monitor

Then it hangs again for about another minute before the password window appears. After that it boots normally and everything works fine. Hopefully can get to the bottom of this later which won't involve having to do a clean install.
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Stopping Firestarter firewall
Starting App Armor profiles
Setting sensor limits
Starting Firestarter firewall
Starting MTA
Starting Disc temperature monitor
Although I don't have the hanging issue's. During boot up Mepis will give an error message when trying to start firestarter. This is because I also have bulldog set to start at boot up.
After boot up I can still run firestarter. Caution do not run the bulldog and firestarter Gui's at the same time.

Did you uninstall Clam or Klam anti virus before installing bit defender?

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No problems with these other things you mention.

My guy arrived eventually yesterday and didn't really like what he saw. He says it's fixable but might take a while to track down because it's a conflict between some 9.04 configurations and what they were changed to during the upgrade process. Because Ubuntu is very popular here a lot of others have also upgraded and he got four more calls yesterday from people with similar issues. In the end he's coming back next Saturday to do a clean install and write a different script for the modem so I'm stuck with Vista until then. Because I help out occasionally with the odd English speaking customer he has he's also offered to replace my Vista with W7 next month so I think I'll go for that too.
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