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Old 04. Mar 2009, 04:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Smile three distros to test

There are three free distros (Linux-versions)I recommend you can download for free.

  1. Ubuntu
    lots of applications, good support of hardware, graphics cards, easily obtainable on magazine cds also. If you're on a low bandwidth connection, check your local pc magazine store, and buy one
  2. Linux Mint
    Based on Ubuntu, posh desktop (Gnome) and stunning graphical effects (if you like them), easy to use, haven't seen this one one a magazine cd yet, 700mb to download a live cd
  3. Mandriva
    the free version comes with less than you probably want if used to Windoze, the paid version is some $50,- and sure worth the money, if you want to spend it.
Using Linux is a decision to do without! There are a lot of things, that work the very same, and if you can rearrange your desktop life to use free web services for writing, spreadsheets, presentation, etc. you will not notice a difference. What I personally miss most is a decent text editor like notepad++ in Windoze. Bluefish might be comparable, still testing. Those who like emacs ( ), will be fully served.

But many a time you will feel travelling back in time, say 10 years?

Also you should not be afraid of the command line.

As for gaming I don't know. I can easily do without games. See: "do without".

It's sure worth trying
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Old 05. Mar 2009, 08:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for the great tips on which Linux distro to try but unfortunately, I'm going to be a bit busy for the next 2 weeks (until 17/3), I got a lot of work to do (no more playing around with Linux...). At least now I have a target, I'm going to try DSL and Puppy Linux out to get a feel of what Linux is like, since I can download them because of their smaller size (download time: few hours). If for any reason I like them, I may keep them permanently or until I decide on switching to those big sized Linux like Ubuntu etc. I'm also planning on buying some LiveCDs to try in the near future.

P.S. - I'll still drop by from time to time to catch-up on this forum.
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Will be waiting to hear more from you . It would be a good idea to start with Puppy Linux or DSL... maybe both, since their sizes are so small , easily writable on cheap CDs .

Rather than buying live CDs, I would recommend that you look for live CDs that come with computer magazines. I dont see any point in buying live cds when you just have to experiment with them... unless they come really cheap.

As another suggestion, if some of your friends have high speed connection, and if they agree, then you can ask them to download some live cds for you . And if some friends work in a software company, you can ask them if they have computer magazines subscribed there. Sometimes, the company will allow them to take away the back issues including the CDs. Thats how i got some of the live CDs... my brother got them from his company... although they were some years old.
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Old 08. Mar 2009, 04:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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There are three free distros (Linux-versions)I recommend you can download for free.

  1. Ubuntu
    lots of applications, good support of hardware, graphics cards, easily obtainable on magazine cds also. If you're on a low bandwidth connection, check your local pc magazine store, and buy one
  2. Linux Mint
    Based on Ubuntu, posh desktop (Gnome) and stunning graphical effects (if you like them), easy to use, haven't seen this one one a magazine cd yet, 700mb to download a live cd
  3. Mandriva
    the free version comes with less than you probably want if used to Windoze, the paid version is some $50,- and sure worth the money, if you want to spend it.
Using Linux is a decision to do without! There are a lot of things, that work the very same, and if you can rearrange your desktop life to use free web services for writing, spreadsheets, presentation, etc. you will not notice a difference. What I personally miss most is a decent text editor like notepad++ in Windoze. Bluefish might be comparable, still testing. Those who like emacs ( ), will be fully served.

But many a time you will feel travelling back in time, say 10 years?

Also you should not be afraid of the command line.

As for gaming I don't know. I can easily do without games. See: "do without".

It's sure worth trying
I like Linux Mint, and I just got elive but haven't had a chance to mess with it.
Here's the home page:
http://www.elivecd.org/

Since downloading distros would put me in the doghouse with my ISP, I've been getting them from this place for years:
http://www.linuxcd.org/
Very inexpensive and free shipping. Its located in Canada, but I've never had any trouble from Canada to the US.
Its been the only workable way for me to get new Linux versions.

I think Ubuntu will ship you a free CD.
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Old 10. Mar 2009, 12:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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WOW!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! After just a few days, this forum has made such a great expansion, there's a Linux section now. Anyways, I haven't made much progress with Linux... Yet. Just one more week till I get to try Linux... Oh, and regarding the Ubuntu free shipping service, the shipping is free but if your country asks you for custom duties and other fees, you have to pay.
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To those who want to know how well the Linux distro I've downloaded went, it went great.

I've downloaded Puppy Linux (94MB, 4hrs) and install it, the first boot up was more or less the same speed with MS, the second and onwards were faster. IMO, PuppyOS is a great OS that can run entirely on RAM and you can use it entirely from the LiveCD in which it will save a 512MB file (size is adjustable) on your hard disk that covers everything from settings to the packages that you wish to install, meaning you can use PuppyOS without partitioning your hard disk.

The only disadvantage I've found was that it did not include a powerpoint software (at least I didn't find one) and some other minor stuff which I need like transferring my bookmarks to PuppyOS's web browser, seamonkey. Currently I will stick to using PuppyOS until I get used to it before I try any other large sized distro which I have to buy the LiveCD due to a slower Internet connection.

P.S - I've seriously think this thread should be move to the Linux section
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Old 17. Mar 2009, 07:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Hi bk_7312... nice to hear that you downloaded Puppy Linux, and thanks for sharing here with us. Hope to hear more of your experiences.
I have also wanted to try out Linux always. Lets see when I am able to do it. I have worked on Solaris earlier for a long time, and I have a few experience on Linux, not much though, but I am still familiar with the unix/linux style. Maybe I will try Linux on my old spare system, when I get it ready.

Its difficult to pack all stuff on a small distro, and somethings will always be missing. You can check if OpenOffice is packed in Puppy Linux... if yes, then OpenOffice has a module similar to powerpoint.
If you want to use the hard disk for saving your work while you work on Linux, then you can mount your hard disk on Linux. I dont know if Puppy Linux auto-mounts the hard disk it finds or not. I have tried Knoppix, another popular LiveCD, and it auto-mounts the hard disks.

You can check other small distros, as to what all applications they pack into the CD. You can accordingly choose your distro.

Also, it would be good, if you downloaded a Linux e-book, and got urself familiar with the various commands, and the OS itself, if you havent already done so. Because, the power of unix/linux lies in the command line. Thats where the juice is, to get things done quickly, easily, and efficiently. Although it may seem daunting at first, but when you get familiar with the commands, tasks really become easy.

And yes, you were right, this topic belonged to Linux forum, and now it does .
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Hey Anupam, OpenOffice can be installed but it's not included in the package manager which means you have to manually install it yourself. Since I'm still a bit not used to their file managing system and their unique right-click menus, I don't think I'll be doing any manual work yet. I'm not sure I understand auto-mount but I know that if you click on a drive like sda2, it'll mount (is mount a fancy word for load?). One more thing, in Windows you can safely remove the USB drive be stopping it, in Linux does it mean unmounting it?

P.S - Thank for moving this thread to the Linux section.
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I suspected OpenOffice wont be installed on the CD, as puppy linux is quite a small distro. And I don't think you can install it, coz you won't be able to save the installation, since the whole OS runs from the ramdisk, and the changes would be lost once you turn off.
But, you can make your own Puppy Linux CD with other packages that you want. It can be done with the help of "Puppy Unleashed", a build script. You can learn more about that on the site. I was just reading the site.
As for the installer, I think there is an installer available to make your task easy. The info there on the site.

You can say mount means to load the hard disk. Actually, to make a hard disk, or an optical disk, a part of the filesystem, you have to mount it. That means attaching the disk at a "mount point" on the filesystem, after which, it is seen as a part of the filesystem. Puppy Linux auto-mounts the hard disk once you click on it, as you told.
Yes, for accessing another hard disk, or USB, you have to mount it first. And then, you have to unmount it afterwards. So yes, to safely remove USB, you will have to unmount it.
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Well, that's just too bad. It would be very useful (to me) if you could do it sooner. I'm currently considering a Linux alternative to my Windows XP due to the fact that too much of my resources are used by my existing security softwares. Anyone know any good sites that reviews different Linux distros?
Try these, very newly updated:
How to choose the best linux distro:
http://apcmag.com/how-to-choose-the-...stribution.htm
(excellent links to additional information)

The definitive dual-booting guide: Windows 7, Linux, Vista and XP step-by-step
Most helpful - it covers all the system from-to's.
http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dua...stepbystep.htm

If you want to go all out with virtualization, this is a good article.
The ULTIMATE guide to virtualization: XP, Vista, Linux, Mac OS X -- step-by-step
http://apcmag.com/the_ultimate_guide...ualization.htm

I would try one of the Linux Live CD's to get an idea of how it works.
There are some differences in hardware support from distro to distro.
Linux Mint has worked best for me, but I have an eLive distro sitting here just waiting until I have time to play.
I wasn't so crazy about Ubuntu, it dumped me without warning into a Linux command line crash course because it wouldn't play nice with my router - took me two days to get them to talk to each other.
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