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Old 29. Nov 2020, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an older laptop (HP Envy) running Windows 10. I wanted to try out Linux Mint, so I used Rufus to install the latest Mint on a usb flash drive. I cannot get my laptop to recognize the usb and boot from it.

I did notice that Secure Boot is enabled. I also went into the power options and disabled fast boot. I also know that I am using uefi boot mode.

Since I use the free version of Macrium Reflect, I installed the MR boot manager. So, upon bootup, I can choose Windows 10 or Macrium Reflect.

Getting into the bios settings hasn't been easy. Once I did get in, I noticed that the boot order has usb drive listed second.

Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
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Old 29. Nov 2020, 06:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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From my experience Rufus is not the ideal tool for producing a bootable USB. The best is Rosa Image Writer which is only available with compatible Linux distros or failing that balenaEtcher. Try also using a slower USB2 drive instead of USB3.
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Old 29. Nov 2020, 08:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks MC for the suggestion. However, I took the USB that I had used Rufus to install the Mint iso on and then tried to use balenaEtcher. I guess I should have reformatted the usb first, because I got an error at the very end of the process and ended up with a 32 GB usb now only having 3.89 MB of space on the entire usb. I tried everything I know to get back the 32 GB of original space, but it's gone and now the usb is trash. I guess I learned an expensive lesson.
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Download GParted, burn that to another USB then boot from it and use the live session to format the borked USB to Fat32. This may or may not fix the problem since often drives formatted from a Windows system get stuffed with Windows related data that corrupts the hardware.
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Failing the above try looking here.
https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wik...s_not_detected
Unfortunately there are a lot of related issues when using Rufus.
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Old 29. Nov 2020, 10:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks. I'll give it a try.
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Old 30. Nov 2020, 12:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The following might help you as I had problems trying to boot from a USB stick: [QUOTE=torres-no-tan-magnifico;124881]

...Iíd never understood why when I entered Boot Menu (F12 on my system) and chose to boot from USB HDD that my PC simply booted from the main HDD and not the USB memory stick. I then noticed that If I entered the BIOS (delete) and went to Advanced Settings it showed me 3 options: 1/ main HDD, 2/ USB memory stick and 3/ something about a certain card that I now canít remember or for that matter care about. After highlighting no. 2, I then tried to move it to the no. 1 position, but failed when attempting to use the + sign on my keyboard. Eventually the penny dropped when I realised that in order to change its position I simply needed to use the number-pad + sign and not the one on the keyboard!

Still not convinced that this would make my PC boot from the USB memory stick I rebooted and joy of joys it booted from the aforementioned. ...
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Thanks Torres.
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This whole thing is very much a lottery. I noticed this today on the ALT Linux site.

"It's not recommended to use UNetbootin, Rufus or UltraISO as these are too "smart" and actually cripple the resulting media to barely bootable or even unbootable state."

This has certainly been my experience and the only reliable tool I've found that works with everything all the time is ROSA Imagewriter.

Added to that, some hardware such as my Dell OptiPlex only accept legacy boot from an external drive, not the internal HDD/SSD hence some distros will not install depending on which of their bootable media options you've downloaded.
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After much trial & error, and ruining a brand new 32 GB flash drive, I finally got Linux Mint to boot off of a usb flash drive. I used Rufus and selected GPT Partition scheme and UEFI (non CSM) Target system. I also finally was able to get into the BIOS and set the system to boot first from a usb/flash drive.

Now, I have to decide if I want to take this old laptop and dual boot Mint Mate and Windows 10.

P.S. After booting into Mint, I was able to install and use Zoom. Both my video and audio worked "out of the box"; so I'm very happy.
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