Gizmos Freeware Reviews  

Go Back   Gizmo's Freeware Forum > Freeware Forum > Linux

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22. Sep 2018, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
Site Manager
 
MidnightCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South American Banana Republic, third bunch from the left
Posts: 15,249
Default Best Linux Ever?

This is 'MX-16 KDE Added' version. I keep coming back to this distro because IMO it is one of the best looking and most functional ever produced.

Iím already bored with the forced flat look of KDE 5 and the fact that most of what I enjoyed using with KDE4 no longer works including Superkaramba with its myriad of beautiful themes.

Simple things too like when Iím changing individual icons, KDE4 remembers the folder I was in for subsequent changes whereas with the Ďimprovedí Plasma 5 Iím forced to navigate through the whole tree every time to get to where I want. I can also change individual components within the desktop themes with KDE4 unlike KDE5 where you get the default set and thatís it.

As far as I can tell MX-16 will be supported until 2020 so the other devs still have more than a year to come up with something decent.

Pretty much everything Iíve tried during the past 12 months fails miserably at something and currently Iím fed up with deselecting the V60 Thunderbird update only for it to be updated anyway and so losing all the previously compatible extensions I had installed. Sure you can hack the Thunderbird settings to get them back but then there are no configuration options so totally useless.

All of this dross in a sea of Linux choices and yet still new distros keep being churned out instead of folks getting together to fix whatís already here.

Worse still some that were good have since departed namely, Mandriva, Dream Linux, Centrych, Chalet OS, Point Linux, SuperX and others.

Please share here your own past favorites which I guess will also come from way-back releases and not from the current crop of cobbled together beta status offerings littering the download pages.

__________________
Buy a Hoover and prove technology sucks.
MidnightCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22. Sep 2018, 01:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
danielson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,147
Default

AFAIK, this is an MX Community member effort (Adrian?) who is keeping it alive but seems to be hesitant on engaging more time into it on account of low user downloads...

In a p.m., he told me that it isn't much faster at loading than the default MX.

At present, following your (MC) declared appreciation for Q4OS here, i have installed and run with great pleasure the present Q4OS KDE stable edition.

Looking for an impartial comment, do you see if MX KDE starts up faster than default MX or even Q4OS?
I know it depends on your computer, but at least hearing from someone else, out of the MX arena would be appreciated.
danielson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22. Sep 2018, 02:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
Site Manager
 
MidnightCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South American Banana Republic, third bunch from the left
Posts: 15,249
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danielson View Post
AFAIK, this is an MX Community member effort (Adrian?) who is keeping it alive but seems to be hesitant on engaging more time into it on account of low user downloads...

In a p.m., he told me that it isn't much faster at loading than the default MX.

At present, following your (MC) declared appreciation for Q4OS here, i have installed and run with great pleasure the present Q4OS KDE stable edition.

Looking for an impartial comment, do you see if MX KDE starts up faster than default MX or even Q4OS?
I know it depends on your computer, but at least hearing from someone else, out of the MX arena would be appreciated.
All this of course is a matter of personal preference but I would much rather have seen further development of Gnome2 instead of the God awful Gnome3 we were presented with and the same for KDE3/4 as opposed to Plasma 5. How can half the stuff folks use on one system not working on the 'upgrade' be an improvement? Also, the development time then concentrated into Cinnamon and MATE could IMO have been better spent elsewhere.

Speed I can't say much about. My two main systems are installed on a 7th gen i5 laptop with 8G and an internal SSD and my other is installed on an external SSD powered from an older version i5 laptop so most of this won't compare to anyone else's setup.

I do agree though that Q4OS is one of the better later productions partly because it doesn't come with a stack of software most folks will never use and the Trinity DE is built from something that was already fast and stable. Once you get past the learning querks of Trinity it's a rewarding experience to use.
__________________
Buy a Hoover and prove technology sucks.
MidnightCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22. Sep 2018, 04:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
danielson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,147
Default

From personal experience, MX takes about 25 seconds to boot which is good but Win 10 takes about that much (+ another min. before you can really use any app.).

If MX is based on Debian (much like Q4OS which takes only about 12 sec. on my computer) and thus uses about half the running processes Ubuntu has (which takes about 12 sec. here as well), why can't it boot faster?

I'm running on a computer basically identical to yours MC.

Do give credit to MX for excellent aesthetics (and other features) as well as to Q4OS for its own.

-btw, don't try latest Q4OS rc 'cause it crashed on me "everywhere".
danielson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22. Sep 2018, 05:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
Site Manager
 
MidnightCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South American Banana Republic, third bunch from the left
Posts: 15,249
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by danielson View Post

-btw, don't try latest Q4OS rc 'cause it crashed on me "everywhere".
Thanks for the heads up. I don't usually bother with development versions anyway but I'll be sure to steer clear of this one for a while yet.
__________________
Buy a Hoover and prove technology sucks.
MidnightCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22. Sep 2018, 08:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
danielson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,147
Default

Mind you, Q4OS Trinity might be okay.

Btw, i always had issue with conkys in MX.
External monitor is set as default, conkys moved over to laptop monitor (so as to see the time, CPU usage etc). but always have to manually move it to laptop at start up. Not a big deal, just an annoyance.
Some conkys however never stick to laptop monitor even if manually set there.

Supposed this issue should be addressed over there (if i ever get off Q4OS).
danielson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22. Sep 2018, 09:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
danielson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,147
Default

Did i miss a download link to that MX KDE?
danielson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23. Sep 2018, 05:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
Copy Editor
 
torres-no-tan-magnifico's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,120
Default

KDE 4 can be added via: Applications > System > MX Package Installer > Window Managers.

HTH

Torres
__________________
(Mx16 + Cx1 + Lx2) + (Tx5 + Nx2 + Bx33)
torres-no-tan-magnifico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23. Sep 2018, 06:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
Site Manager
 
MidnightCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South American Banana Republic, third bunch from the left
Posts: 15,249
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by torres-no-tan-magnifico View Post
KDE 4 can be added via: Applications > System > MX Package Installer > Window Managers.

HTH

Torres
IMO this is not the preferred way of doing it because the likelyhood of dependency issues is quite high.

Instead, it's best to download the complete respin.

http://mxrepo.com/snapshots/Community_Respins/
__________________
Buy a Hoover and prove technology sucks.
MidnightCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23. Sep 2018, 06:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
Site Manager
 
MidnightCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South American Banana Republic, third bunch from the left
Posts: 15,249
Default

Just a footnote to the above.

This release is now quite ancient so the updates after installation are pretty hefty. The update will in fact fail with a conflict issue related to MX-Tools. Just uninstall this package after the failure notice using Synaptic and then finish the upgrade with Synaptic and all will be fine.
__________________
Buy a Hoover and prove technology sucks.
MidnightCowboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.