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Old 22. Oct 2017, 10:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Finally with the latest release 17.10, Ubuntu has replaced Unity with GNOME as the default desktop, and moved window control buttons back to the right.

It also uses GDM as the default display manager, and Wayland as the default display server since most Linux distros are ditching the decades-old X.Org display server.

Has anyone tried it out?
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Killing Unity was a good move but I've never been a fan of Gnome since version II was replaced with something inferior. I also can't get very attached to an OS with only 9 months of support.

When you see what Plasma 5 and Xfce4 bring to the table, especially with Compiz added, I doubt a Gnome version of Ubuntu is going to reclaim many lost souls.
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The next version Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will be worth looking at as the current version 17.10 is the first version that Ubuntu has defaulted to GNOME 3, which after 6 years of development as a default user interface has received more positive reviews, including the one here.

In Ubuntu 17.10 using GNOME 3, it now allows you to move the Dash from the left to the bottom of the screen. I've tried the extension "Dash to Dock" to merge the top bar with the Dash but have yet to find a way to disable the default Dash. Will explore more.

Tried KDE and Xfce desktops before but was not very impressed. Will look into these once I get more time and see how it has developed over time, in particular KDE Plasma 5.

Linux Mint's Cinnamon (forked from GNOME 3) and MATE (continued from GNOME 2) editions are some of my favorites too.

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Tried KDE and Xfce desktops before but was not very impressed. Will look into these once I get more time and see how it has developed over time, in particular KDE Plasma 5.
Everything is relevant to the needs and aspirations of the user and I prefer the traditional bottom panel, desktop effects and multiple theme choices. KDE5 has all of these without needing tweaks or extensions.

Admittedly Xfce needs more work and only Compiz is capable of adding all the glitter and won't work with a lot of distros. Where it does however you get access to the full set of Emerald themes, spinning cubes and tons of other effects that just make Gnome look decidedly dull. Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that Compiz is not compatible with Ubuntu unless an alternative DE to Gnome3 is installed.
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Several articles are suggesting that Ubuntu's return to GNOME will help regain its popularity, such as this:

"GNOME was the original desktop that helped to make Ubuntu one of the most popular (and user-friendly) distributions on the market. It was the adoption of Unity that helped to cause Ubuntu's popularity to take a hit... If I were to speculate, it is the return to form that will bring it back to that coveted number one spot. Ubuntu has a lot of ground to make up, but GNOME will go a long way to aid that effort."

Source: Ubuntu 17.10 is back on track with GNOME: Here's why that's a good thing
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I prefer the traditional bottom panel, desktop effects and multiple theme choices. KDE5 has all of these without needing tweaks or extensions.
Me too, a reason I like Linux Mint Cinnamon which does all that. KDE is definitely visually richer than GNOME, however, in my personal experience, I prefer GNOME to KDE for more stability on my devices that I've used over the years.
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More references to Ubuntu 17.10:

What The Press Is Saying About Ubuntu 17.10
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Me too, a reason I like Linux Mint Cinnamon which does all that. KDE is definitely visually richer than GNOME, however, in my personal experience, I prefer GNOME to KDE for more stability on my devices that I've used over the years.
For me, stability was only an issue with Plasma 5 during it's early days. I've had Manjaro KDE running on one machine for several months without a single stability issue, even after the often famed Manjaro updates. For those who do experience issues due likely to hardware configuration, there are still excellent LTS versions with KDE4 like Mint that also run other goodies missing from Plasma 5 such as Superkaramba.
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... and talking about KDE4 with everything included, I recommend checking this one out.

https://www.linux.com/learn/sysadmin...d-distribution
http://bluestarlinux.sourceforge.net/
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While running a terminal command "gksu gedit" in Ubuntu 17.10, I encountered this error:

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/usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-2.0/apps/mate-panel.rc:30: error: invalid string constant "murrine-scrollbar", expected valid string constant
This has been reported as a bug here and does not seem to have a solution yet
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