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Old 05. Nov 2016, 05:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Puppy Linux tahrpup version 6.0.2

Been playing around with this newer version of Puppy for a few days now. I'm running it off a thumb drive and so far I'm impressed. It runs smoothly although thats to be expected since it's loaded into ram. I haven't messed with Puppy for awhile but since the distros hitting the streets lately are mostly awful (IMO) I decided to give it a go.

I quickly remembered that there is a learning curve with this distro but fortunately I quickly regained my bearings. This distro is the quintessential portable app which can be run on a computer that no longer boots as long as the computers hardware is intact. I know lots of linux distros can too but to me, Puppy is special

I invite you fellow distro hoppers to give it a whirl if for no other reason than being tired of trying out the new Ubuntu crap.

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Old 06. Nov 2016, 05:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You piqued my curiosity. So, I downloaded both tahrpup and slacko. I used Rufus to create a bootable usb flash drive for both. I then went into my bios setup so that I could boot from the usb. Neither the tahrpup or slacko would work.

The both sat there for 10 minutes "loading the kernel". Interestingly enough, I also did the exact same thing for Kubuntu 14.04 and it worked like a charm?! Any suggestions?

By the way, is there anyway to make Kubuntu 14.04 on a usb flash drive persistent? (Save the settings and everything once you shut down.)
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Old 06. Nov 2016, 11:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I used Rufus to create a bootable usb flash drive for both.
I used Yumi to create a multiboot flash drive on a 8GB Sandisk 2.0 thumb drive. Along with a few useful apps I also installed Puppy TahrPup. The apps and distro boot independently by way of a Grub menu.

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I then went into my bios setup so that I could boot from the usb.
On my box I have to press F9 at boot-up to bring up a menu to select which drive to boot from.

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By the way, is there anyway to make Kubuntu 14.04 on a usb flash drive persistent? (Save the settings and everything once you shut down.)
You can and I have using PendriveLinux
The thing is its runs slow or at least on my rig it does. I suppose if you were to use a USB 3.0 thumb drive in the computer's USB 3.0 receptacle you could get better performance. What I've learned is that 3.0 USB thumb drives are not all the same. Its best to look for the Read and write speeds to suit your needs. FYI read and write speeds for a USB Drive are often different.
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Ok. I need some assistance. I'm using a 8 GB usb flash drive and I installed Yumi on it. So far, I've been successful in running Kubuntu and Peppermint. When I boot from the flash drive, it gives me the option of running either. And, both run and load without a problem.

However, not a single version of Puppy has worked. I have tried 64 bit and 32 bit versions of Slacko and Tahrpup and version 4.3.1. None of them will boot. They install fine onto Yumi and show up as options. However, upon booting into Puppy, they all stall at "Initializing...." Why can't I get Puppy to run?!

P.S. My whole point in wanting to run Puppy is that I want a persistent Linux USB. I don't know how to make either Kubuntu or Peppermint "persistent" on this Yumi usb flash drive that I created.

P.S.S. Are there other versions of Linux that I can install onto a USB and make persistent? (For example, I'd like to install some games and Chromium and have them there the next time I boot up the usb Linux.)
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This is something I have never needed to do but maybe this offers what you want?
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/univer...easy-as-1-2-3/
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Curious as I use no other Linux than Puppy and I have no problems.
Try doing a "frugal install" which actually is better than a traditional "full install" and gives more options.
I don't use any of the installers at all. I just download the ISO and extract the files to a folder on the usb drive then modify the grub on the drive to point to it.
So grub looks like:

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color blue/green yellow/red white/magenta white/magenta
timeout 30
default /default

title Puppy Linux Lucid 528 frugal
find --set-root /lupu5000/vmlinuz
kernel /lupu5000/vmlinuz pmedia=usbide psubdir=lupu5000 pfix=copy
initrd /lupu5000/initrd.gz

title Puppy Linux 420 Frugal
find --set-root /puppy420/vmlinuz
kernel /puppy420/vmlinuz pmedia=usbide psubdir=puppy420 pfix=copy
initrd /puppy420/initrd.gz

title Puppy Linux 420 Frugal fresh
find --set-root /puppy420/vmlinuz
kernel /puppy420/vmlinuz pmedia=usbide psubdir=puppy420 pfix=ram
initrd /puppy420/initrd.gz

title Puppy Linux Lucid 528 Frugal fresh 
find --set-root /lupu5000/vmlinuz
kernel /lupu5000/vmlinuz pmedia=usbide psubdir=lupu5000 pfix=ram
initrd /lupu5000/initrd.gz
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I don't use any of the installers at all. I just download the ISO and extract the files to a folder on the usb drive then modify the grub on the drive to point to it.
Please forgive my ignorance:

1. How do you extract the files of an iso to the usb drive?
2. "modify the grub on the drive to point to it"--I don't have a clue what that means?! How do you do that?
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P.S. My whole point in wanting to run Puppy is that I want a persistent Linux USB. I don't know how to make either Kubuntu or Peppermint "persistent" on this Yumi usb flash drive that I created.
*note* PendriveLinux's wedsite has articles and such that are several years old. The Yumi app was last updated in 2016.
I've been using PendriveLinux's website and software for years with very little problems. I recommend careful reading of its tutorials as the processes can be involved.

You may want to take a look at this article: Testing your system for USB boot compatibility
This article shows you how to test your thumb drive's ability to run a linux distro in persistent mode. Remember not all thumb drives are capable of this. Recommended USB Linux flash drives


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1. How do you extract the files of an iso to the usb drive?
2. "modify the grub on the drive to point to it"--I don't have a clue what that means?! How do you do that?
I never used this method, instead I used Yumi or the Universal USB Installer.
https://www.pendrivelinux.com/
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If you are looking at Puppy Linux, do NOT use any "wrapper software" to make it persistant.
It does it itself -it asks to save settings on exit the first time. Just go to the Puppy web site and follow the instructions to install to USB.
If you have a reasonable ( say 2gb) amount of memory Puppy will run completely in memory anyway and the only time the stick will be used is on load and on save.
I actually have to cheat Puppy to get it to save to the stick more often (tell it it is a USB HARD DRIVE).


You mount the ISO and copy the files with a file manager. It is safer to use Linux for this, but only because Windows has a habit of changing the case of the filenames unless you actively set case to mixed. (I think the command is SET UPPERCASE OFF or something similar.)

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