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Old 17. Dec 2015, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Had a few requests for more info since I posted this screenshot, so here goes.

The following review is from a respected source and gives it 10/10.

http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/201...w-of-q4os.html

The live version easily fits onto a CD and IMO this is worthy of inspection.

http://q4os.org/

Debian stable plus the Trinity Desktop. The TDE project began as a continuation of the K Desktop Environment (KDE) version 3. Not so glitzy as KDE4 but unlike Plasma 5, it does work.
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Old 02. Mar 2016, 09:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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By default, Q4OS has a limited choice of window decorations and other stuff (Wobbly Windows etc) but it is possible to run Compiz/Emerald, depending on your hardware specs.

See here for the Compiz instructions.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-i...e-shaun-marolf

Be sure to follow these exactly and don't install the compiz-trinity options if you are using Synaptic. Use the "stared" Compiz options instead.

See here for Emerald install instructions.

http://linuxfreedom-technoshaun.blog...nd-lmde-2.html

If you hit a dependency error using Gdebi, you can select the right one from here, install that, and then run Gdebi again to install the Emerald package.

http://main.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/mx...est/e/emerald/

Thereafter you can set up Compiz using CCSM as normal and then select to use the Compiz Window Manager by navigating:

Settings - Control Panel - Appearance & Themes - Window Decorations - Window Manager.

* Don't forget to import at least one theme into Emerald first.
* Don't forget to remove the Ubuntu Wily repo from your sources list.
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I am now installing Q4OS for those who wish to move from Windows to Linux, and not just because it has an optional XP lookalike interface. Recently the Mint installs I did for folks over time all began having intermittent network and other issues. I am no longer able to sit in front of a monitor for ages at a time trying to chase down the cause of stuff like this, so Mint is no more. The Orion LTS is supported until (they say) at least 2020 so that is good enough for me. I'll also quote from the review I linked to in my first post.

"The crazy thing is though that it really works and it works better than most of the other Linux distributions I have tried over the past 10 years.

Everything is oddly where you would expect it to be and everything really does just work.

I didn't have a single program cause issues and the performance is astounding. Quite honestly I can't fault this as a distribution and I am surprised it isn't more popular."
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Short video View My Video]here as demo after a few customizations but mainly to demonstrate the speed of this excellent distro.
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Could this be the one?
Elegant and sleek it promises.

The old way of trying to cram a ton of bells and whistles into a Linux distro seems to have only produced fat clunky abominations.

Out of the ashes of the old a Phoenix is born, we shall see.
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Its been a week and it was enough time to give Q4os a pretty good shakedown. My first problem was with it's installation on my spare partition I use just for testing distros. The install was not as straight forward for example as a Mint install. I may have missed something but grub took over the hard drive boot manager. Easy enough fix but It shouldn't happen.

My next problem after the install was mounting the partitions on both of my hard drives. Again not a problem doing this with the Ubuntu/Mint distros. I finally figured out that I needed to edit my fstab file but as with the install process so unnecessary.

IMO setting up the menus, themes and other system functions to my liking was just plain clunky.

What I did like was the snappy feel of the Distro. Playing media was easy after installing the codecs which was smooth going. Everything else was good for the short time I used this distro.

Onward and forward I go testing another Debian concentric distro. I've chosen Solydxk which I just installed in place Q4os which I found very straight forward this time. I'll give my humble opinion in the appropriate thread.
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IMO setting up the menus, themes and other system functions to my liking was just plain clunky.
Anyone moving from Windows to Mac or vice versa would no doubt have the same experience and the Trinity DE is quite different to the Gnome/Xfce/modern KDE type environments most of us are already used to, unless of course you come straight from an old KDE3 install.

Also, Linux in General, as with Windows, wants you to wipe your drive and make a single installation in which case everything is dead easy no matter what the installer type so long as it's GUI and not text based. As soon as you want to dual boot or make a manual partition selection things get a bit more difficult.
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I used to be a fan of Mint and the installation process was pretty simple. It was also easy to set up the menus and themes etc. I probably was so familiar with Mint that when I started to fan out into the world of Linux I encountered many different ways of doing things especially with the RedHat type of distros.

Once I tried Kubuntu I knew I was home. Everything was so easy and straight forward I became spoiled. I still use version 14.04 and have found no reason to switch. There was a brief moment Plasma 5 had me star struck but then it never worked out the serious bugs to my satisfaction. Then there is Puppy which is installed on a thumb drive that I carry around on my key chain


There were promising distros that were doing things outside the box. So much fun and adventures but most just shriveled up and disappeared due to lack of support. One that really wowed me and is still supported is Bodhi and its Enlightenment desktop.

To be completely honest I still use Win 7 and Win 10 which are installed on separate HDDs. Say what you will but Windows just works and has Superior hardware support.

Dang, this post is much larger than I intended
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Say what you will but Windows just works and has Superior hardware support.
Windows does have better hardware support but with so many Linux distros to choose from it's highly unlikely your graphics or network card will completely draw a blank. Smartphone support might be more of an issue though.

A lot of Windows users would take issue with the "just works" statement though, especially after the Anniversary update.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...-breaking-pcs/

I too thought Plasma 5 would be a step forward and the popularity of KDE Neon proves others think the same but like you I had a lot of issues with it. It's also a big step backwards in terms of how you can customize stuff and in many ways a direct comparison with what happened when Gnome 3 was launched upon us.

If you like Kubuntu though but want something better check out MX-15.

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mx-15.html

Be sure to get the "KDE added" download otherwise you'll only have the Xfce desktop. The KDE added version still boots into Xfce but thereafter you can choose to boot into KDE4.

There's also a good YouTube presentation for it but our forum is rejecting the link for some reason. Search for "MX-15 Debian + KDE = Fantastic ! ! !" in Google and it will bring it up.
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installation indeed is dangerous as I found out and lost ny home folder , try it at your own peril . as Dediomedo said
"Choosing the right devices is a little tricky. First, you need to know what each partition stands for, and what kind of data hides there. As there are no labels, you will need to do a bit of research. Then, under Preferences, the option to preserve /home data is not checked by default. Risky and dangerous."
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