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Old 19. Dec 2014, 02:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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With security issues at Sony (held up for ransom by hackers from North Korea?) and people who can use your webcam to peak into your privacy etc. Is Linux more hacker-proof than Windows?
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Curiosity.

With security issues at Sony (held up for ransom by hackers from North Korea?) and people who can use your webcam to peak into your privacy etc. Is Linux more hacker-proof than Windows?
Linux is infinitely more secure than Windows for a variety of Windows because of how it is constructed and how elevated permissions are controlled by the system. There are of course vulnerabilities for Linux but most of these target server systems because there is little to be gained from targeting home users. Some examples here.

https://www.alertlogic.com/blog/dont...eal-christmas/
http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerabil...ux-Kernel.html

The other advantage of Linux is that vulnerabilities are patched in general far quicker after discovery than in Windows.

I have never seen any evidence of a home user having their data stolen, (or held to ransom) or their bank account emptied resulting from their operation of a Linux system.

Where I live, hackers are thicker than fleas on a dog's back and extend as far as employees of ISP's who sell off customer details including IP addresses. For this reason I only use Windows for testing purposes, plus my Linux systems are faster than Windows and far more configurable.

Most Linux systems also come with some form of hardened security installed by default such as SELinux.

http://selinuxproject.org/page/Main_Page

There is some useful information in the myth and reality section of this wiki from Ubuntu.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity

Suffice to say that so long as you don't run 24/7 as root and only install additional software from the certified repositories, your chances of getting hacked using a Linux home system are to all intents and purposes, nil.
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Old 19. Dec 2014, 04:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks!
You kind of lost me with the CVE info. sheet and what you said which echoed the Ubuntu wiki link makes alot of sense.

Personally, working on a laptop with Windows 7, rarely opening files, I'm happy with Malwarebytes and no antivirus. Use VirusTotal to upload if need be.

I've noticed many Windows updates lately.
Could it be on account of the Sony issues?
I imagine they use Windows since graphic programs have improved drammaticaly there over the past years compared to Mac (so i've heard or vaguely remember reading).

BTW, did like your computer snapshot on another thread.
Although i have a penchant for LinuxMint (do like their Support system, Cinnamon and their repos.) i dare ask what distro you are using... ?
Tweakhound guy swears by OpenSuse but i prefer LM. Do like Manjaro respins by Matthew Moore but... i'm still undecided about taking the plunge to Linux.

After all, hackers are mostly interested with the big guys right?
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After all, hackers are mostly interested with the big guys right?
Very true. Home users are susceptible to drive-by exploits to a certain extent depending on their surfing habits, but the most prolific are socially engineered exploits and no software can prevent folks from clicking on this stuff if they so desire.

I have Manjaro KDE on my main machine dual booted with Trisquel 7. On the spare machine I tend to run some of the more obscure distros such as Cylon and SuperX which are easily as good, and in many cases better, than the more established names.
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Talk about obscure distros!!
How did you ever stumble upon, and decide to use Trisquel 7?
Manjaro KDE is intensive, not too good for old computers.

A few years back, searching for Christmas themes i was caught by a trojan.
That taught me the importance of anti-spyware programs like MalwareBytes.
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Talk about obscure distros!!
How did you ever stumble upon, and decide to use Trisquel 7?
Manjaro KDE is intensive, not too good for old computers.
Depends on what you mean by intensive. You can see from the SK monitor in this screenshot that memory use is running at 822 with a plain desktop. This rises to around 1400 with a browser open. CPU use is also less than you would expect.

Trisquel is not an obscure distro for regular Linux users, having been in operation for 7 years. I always dual boot something with Trisquel because it can be relied upon not to break when maybe what is installed alongside it does. Trisquel also uses only truly free software and has a better than most support forum.

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Manjaro KDE seems to be less resource intensive than Trisquel.
Interesting!

What got me a bit *@%* lately was an elderly lady friend who brought her Windows 7 infected with some trojan to a computer guy. He installed MalwareBytes, ran it and charged her only $75 for his time...

Anyway, i installed ublock on her Chrome browser in the hopes to avoid future mishaps.

Would install Linux on her system but she uses Skype and another piece of Sony software for her recordings. Not sure how these behave on Linux. Have to try them out personally.

BTW, don't want to wander to far off the topic here, but i have a Canon Scanner LiDE70 that will never have drivers for Linux. Never know, but, do you think they're might be a work around for it at this stage of the game?

Wonder why computer shops don't recommend to their customers to try Linux more often (seeing that they more secure) ?
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Wonder why computer shops don't recommend to their customers to try Linux more often (seeing that they more secure) ?
No right minded business person would offer to give up their most reliable income stream.
When I was servicing live customers, systems trashed by registry cleaners plus malware infestations were our best earners. None of this would have been possible with Linux systems.

All I can suggest re: your scanner is to Google the complete name for it followed by a few distro names such as "Canon Scanner LiDE70 Linux Mint". If there is anything in the forums, the posts will appear in the search results.
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Think the best solution for CanoScan LiDE 70 will be to get acquainted with Virtualbox.

Here we go! On with a spin of Manjaro KDE in the hopes of a hacker free computer ride!

Will check back here for useful Linux software.
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Any OS can be secured, but the freedom and flexibility of Linux is hard to beat. You can compile your own hardened kernel, strip out all unnecessary components, filter every activity, etc.
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