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debtboy 29. Sep 2013 02:16 AM

After a few years..
 
I had hoped the Linux / open-source section would have expanded by now.

Just goes to show the meaningless pursuits of the back door windows world rules.
How very sad!!

Cthulhux 16. Oct 2013 10:34 AM

The backdoor Windows world? Do you imply that Linux has no backdoors?

How very sad!!

J_L 17. Oct 2013 03:41 AM

Please provide evidence before defaming anything, thank you. It's more for your own sake by the way.

Cthulhux 18. Oct 2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_L (Post 93609)
Please provide evidence before defaming anything

Precisely. Where's the evidence for "Windows backdoors"?

Linux has quite a lot of them. Subscribe to the Secunia bug list and learn it. I really wonder why people still think that Linux is in any way related to "more security"...

J_L 19. Oct 2013 12:06 AM

Ever heard of the _NSAKEY? There's more on Wilders Security Forums of which you're a rather inactive member of.

Maybe you should point out the exact source(s) for once instead of always referring to Secunia. I'm sure you know the answer to Linux security by experience, if not wilfully ignorant.

MidnightCowboy 19. Oct 2013 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthulhux (Post 93658)
Precisely. Where's the evidence for "Windows backdoors"?

I really wonder why people still think that Linux is in any way related to "more security"...

What are we talking about here, Linux desktop, Linux server or other Linux?

Regarding desktops, Linux is vastly more secure than Windows to the point that average users can regard it as being virus free. This accepts it is being operated as it was intended to be without blanket root privileges and the use of additional software from unofficial repositories. This makes sense otherwise you can say car drivers have a massive risk level if they drive on three wheels at night, without lights, a joint in one hand and a can of Bud in the other.

Every piece of scare, oooH, gasp! Linux malware I've seen reported requires root in one form or another or the user to physically download, install and configure it to run.

One of the latest examples is the OMG! "Hand of Thief Banking Trojan Targets Linux", the real world analysis being slightly different.

http://news.techworld.com/security/3...ware-says-rsa/

If it was even half possible to have your PC hijacked by scareware, your files trashed remotely or your bank account emptied using Linux, the antivirus vendors would already be offering "solutions" at the same payment rates they do for Windows.

Cthulhux 19. Oct 2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_L (Post 93675)
Ever heard of the _NSAKEY?

Yup, as Microsoft is an US-American company, it is required to ask the NSA if it wants to export security tools. All documented. Oh, also the NSAKEY "issue" is from 1999, quite a few Windows versions ago. Is that all you have got? The times they are a-changin'.

(Also, Secunia is quite a good source. Just use it. How many exploits per week do you need to accept that Linux is not related to security?)

Cthulhux 19. Oct 2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MidnightCowboy (Post 93676)
Regarding desktops, Linux is vastly more secure than Windows to the point that average users can regard it as being virus free.

Not true for more than one decade now.

New rootkits and trojan kits target Linux, they have been doing so for years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MidnightCowboy (Post 93676)
Every piece of scare, oooH, gasp! Linux malware I've seen reported requires root in one form or another

It takes about two days for new kernels to have working root exploits. ;)
Insecure crap then - or at least not any more secure than Windows. Sorry to disappoint your fandom.

J_L 19. Oct 2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthulhux (Post 93680)
Yup, as Microsoft is an US-American company, it is required to ask the NSA if it wants to export security tools. All documented. Oh, also the NSAKEY "issue" is from 1999, quite a few Windows versions ago. Is that all you have got? The times they are a-changin'.

(Also, Secunia is quite a good source. Just use it. How many exploits per week do you need to accept that Linux is not related to security?)

Do you seriously think it only applies to old Windows versions? Now you're downplaying your own request for evidence. Here's what's new, the TPM backdoor. Don't forget my second sentence that you cropped out.

Since when does exploit equal backdoor? Please show me actual evidence instead of "Secunia says so" without even linking the specific "backdoors".

MidnightCowboy 19. Oct 2013 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthulhux (Post 93681)
Not true for more than one decade now.

New rootkits and trojan kits target Linux, they have been doing so for years.


Still waiting for evidence of a single one that a Linux user can pick up during normal and correct usage of their system? Please provide links to details of these exploits so at least we have something to discuss.


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