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Old 10. Aug 2013, 11:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, i'm an intermediate windows XP user. I hate Microsucks. I use portable programs as much as possible, so i don't have to re-install them when i have to re-install XP. I stuck with XP because i could never get Win7 to do what i want and most of my games (yes even DS from Microsoft) don't work on Win7. I just checked and to my surprise, they are all supposed to work with wine, so i plan on using PlayOnLinux.

As far as linux is concerned, i've used it a couple of times on other peoples computers (mostly Ubuntu) and i tried to install Ubuntu twice but gave up both times. The first time i gave up because i couldn't get my dial-up to work. The second time i gave up when i discovered i needed an internet connection to install anything (i didn't have one at home at the time). Now i have a Wifi internet connection and i'm getting tired of fighting with XP to stop it from crashing.

My question after reading http://www.techsupportalert.com/cont...distro-you.htm is: "What's the difference between installing KUbuntu or Mint and simply installing the latest Ubuntu LTS?" "Is it just the desktop that changes?"

All i want is a computer that works. In my experience, if something can go wrong with a computer, it will go wrong when i use it. I've been using and fighting computers since Commodore 64. I'm no expert, but i've learned a lot trough using computers that never want to do what i want them to do.

Nowadays, i mostly want to check my emails, surf with Firefox, download/convert/trim/watch video files from the internet, play older games like Diablo2 LOD, NWN, DS, DS2BW and play around with documents and images.

If someone has a suggestion of distro, i'm listening.
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Old 11. Aug 2013, 12:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If someone has a suggestion of distro, i'm listening.
I get loads of requests like this via PM and my answer is always the same. I think the first thing to decide is roughly what you want the desktop to look like (bearing in mind any Linux installation can be heavily customized). This helps to narrow down the DE to recommend although many distros offer a choice so it doesn't necessarily have to be Linux "X" to get KDE, or Linux "Y" to get Gnome or Xfce.

Browsing the screenshot threads here will help you to decide on something that looks appealing. I'd start at the last page in this thread and work back.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/free...look-like.html

Some of these illustrate customized installs and others are plain Jane out of the box setups. More here.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/free...hot-links.html

Personally, I prefer KDE and my best experience by far has been with SuperX. I've linked to their Distrowatch entry because at the time of writing this, their own site is not opening.

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=superx

Dedoimedo gave this a pretty poor review and described a load of issues, not one of which have I encountered on three machines. Two are desktops, one new, the other two years old, and the third is a low end Samsung laptop. SuperX performs faultlessly on all three and doesn't need another 700MB+ of updates after install like some other distros do. Your experience might vary however, as illustrated between Dedoimedo and myself.

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/superx-darwin.html

If you like the Cinnamon DE then it has to be Mint period.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/

If you prefer one of the lighter DE's then my best experience has been with Voyager. Their home site (voyager.legtux.org) is in French but you can use Google translate and it installs fine in English.

Another I liked is DescentOS.

http://www.descentos.org/

Bear in mind some of these have LTS versions so it depends on what you want as to which release to download.

Apart from those listed above, if something else appeals from the screenshot images, please say and I'll comment on those too.

Your experience setting network connections will vary depending on your hardware. I have a DSL main connection which works fine with most distros and a mobile broadband backup which is more fussy. Both work fine though with the distros listed above. At least you can find all of this out during a live session without having to do a full install.

All of my machines incidentally are dual booted with SuperX x64 (Wine not supported) and Windows 7 x32. If you need Wine compatibility with KDE, I'd look first at Mint KDE, rather than Kubuntu.

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2422

Lastly, ZorinOS is designed to be a complete Windows replacement and at one point it was very good. Their insistence on pursuing a custom DE however has raised loads of issues and I no longer recommend it. Your opinion of course might be different.

http://zorin-os.com/
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I too like to play older games. When asking for which Linux distro works best your likely to get allot of suggestions.

For me Mint14 Mate works best. I play many of my favorite games using Wine but be aware there are various methods to use with wine to get a Windows game to work correctly. I have found the Wine application Database very helpful. For even older Dos games I have found DosBox and its frontend DBGL quite helpful. My advice is to learn your way around Linux first than learn how to use wine, this may make things easier.
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Browsing the screenshot threads here will help you to decide on something that looks appealing. I'd start at the last page in this thread and work back.

If you like the Cinnamon DE then it has to be Mint period.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/

If you prefer one of the lighter DE's then my best experience has been with Voyager. Their home site (voyager.legtux.org) is in French but you can use Google translate and it installs fine in English.

Your experience setting network connections will vary depending on your hardware. I have a DSL main connection which works fine with most distros and a mobile broadband backup which is more fussy. Both work fine though with the distros listed above. At least you can find all of this out during a live session without having to do a full install.
I'll go take a look at the screenshots, but look isn't the major issue for me. I want stability and ease of use. Being able to play the games that i like, either trough wine or a virtual winXP, is also very important.

You mentioned older computers and that made me think i should describe mine.
It's an Asus P5B motherboard with Intel dual core 4300@1.8GHz.
It has 2 Sata WD 500Gig HDD and an old Maxtor 120Gig (slowly dying)
-NVidia GeForce 7600 GT
-SoundMax integrated digital HD audio
-Realtek Ethernet Onboard
-TP-Link wireless network adapter
-Plug and play Coby TV/Monitor
-USB keyboard and Mouse
-DVD Burner

As you can see, pretty basic and more then a couple years old. It doesn't even have the minimums for Guildwars2.

I'll definitely check Voyager as french is my first language.
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I too like to play older games. When asking for which Linux distro works best your likely to get allot of suggestions.

For me Mint14 Mate works best. I play many of my favorite games using Wine but be aware there are various methods to use with wine to get a Windows game to work correctly. I have found the Wine application Database very helpful. For even older Dos games I have found DosBox and its frontend DBGL quite helpful. My advice is to learn your way around Linux first than learn how to use wine, this may make things easier.
Your link is where i got the information about my games being ok in wine. Why not Mint15? I'm used to the latest update being the best, as long as it's not a beta.
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I'm used to the latest update being the best, as long as it's not a beta.
From experience I like to wait awhile for the bugs that accompany a new release to be ironed out, however Mint15 has been out for awhile so most bugs should be resolved by now. Now days I have found that its quite fine to use an older release for a couple of years before jumping to a newer one unless there are major improvements to compel me to do so.
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When you say lighter DE, what do you mean?
Voyager doesn't fit on a CD.
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oops, i forgot
Some help files (without errors and reflecting reality, sorry i've been burned by not so helpful help files that point to things that don't exist) and/or guides would be useful too.
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When you say lighter DE, what do you mean?
Voyager doesn't fit on a CD.
Lighter in terms of system power needed to operate, and speed in operation. KDE is mostly the heaviest but again it depends on the distro. Korora for instance is very demanding whereas Netrunner is not. Of the others, Xfce gives what IMO is the best balance between how it performs as opposed to what it needs to do so.
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Some help files (without errors and reflecting reality, sorry i've been burned by not so helpful help files that point to things that don't exist) and/or guides would be useful too.
Most distros have wikis and a dedicated forum where things like the install process are detailed. Worth searching Youtube too. Some of the reviews there are nothing more than flicking through the installed menu options but others are more detailed, including how to dual boot various distros with Windows.
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