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Old 27. Jul 2013, 06:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Thanks MC I'll have a look around and see what live distros I can find, it's probably about a year since I last tried one.

This is the other thing with Linux of course, the amount of different versions that seem to be available to choose from... whichever one I get, I'll be wondering what I'm missing out on!
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Old 28. Jul 2013, 12:29 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Thanks MC I'll have a look around and see what live distros I can find, it's probably about a year since I last tried one.

Ones I'd recommend.
  • SuperX - best KDE experience for me by far.
  • Mint with Cinnamon desktop
  • Voyager - 12.04 LTS - not the current version - Xfce DE done right with loads of added extras. The website is in French so link not permitted here. Just Google "Voyager Linux" and then use Google translate. This distro uses "Conky Control" and has about 20 different choices pre-installed that you can alternate between or run together. If what you choose disappears when you right-click on the desktop there is an easy work around to keep it in view. The custom bottom panel is something you will either love or hate but if the latter you can just delete it, prevent it from re-starting and then drag the top panel into its place if this format serves you better.

http://superxos.com/
http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
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Old 29. Jul 2013, 10:15 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I have never found anything I needed Windows for because I could not "do it" with Linux. True I am not an elite tech user but I know lots who are that don't even have Windows installed.

For me one of the keys is speed. Linux is just so much faster to open stuff and use, especially internet related apps. Also, it seems that every time I boot into Windows something other than the OS needs updating which is detracting and time consuming.

There are also zero security concerns unless you want to log in as root and ignore all of the built in safety measures.

Also, even without an image I can re-install from scratch in the event of a problem and be fully customized and back to where I was in around an hour.

For all of this, I can also choose whether I want a distro that updates to a brand new version every 6 months or so, annually, or one that doesn't need changing for several years.

So for me, Linux is a no brainer regarding speed, efficiency and worry free surfing. The downside is that often issues require greater attention to fix than in Windows but only if users are incapable of searching a forum and copying code into a terminal. Certainly there are less Linux systems rendered unbootable by serious issues that those running Windows.
Yes indeed M C I agree with you , perhaps a little reluctantly being a more of a windows fan but even to do a new install linux is so much faster .
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Old 07. Aug 2013, 08:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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My take on this is,Linux is better for most people then win cause most people only use the computer to surf the web,then linux is far faster far safer,and easier,and the most important far cheaper and Free,free, free.You can choose any distro,all free.
I had Win on my 2 pc and needed to upgrade from Xp which ended support for it, i had to spend tons of money to do it,i found Linux and did not look back and i'm so happy,there is not one single thing yet that i can't do with linux that i could do in windows,i bet you there are so many people that do not know about what linux can do,if they knew they would change in a hard beat,this is due ignorance.i have a laptop win win just cause i'm a musician and bought a Finaly music program that costed me too much money and only can run it on win,i can get a free linux music program,that does most things i do with Finale music program but i have lots of music sheet files,but when win starts to have lack of supp my win vista i just install linux and that's it and will not miss none of the win payed crap.long live Linux
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Ivtec, you're right that lots of people don't know about Linux or its benefits. But I don't think ignorance is the issue.

In my local newspaper there are more articles promoting Linux than Windows. I provide computer support for a lot of people and I know that most of them would not cope with Linux. They know about it and I could convert them to Linux but the PCs they buy come with have Windows and accordingly their friends all use Windows.

I agree with the many people who have posted in these forums that Linux will not succeed until it come preinstalled on computers. That's what's happening with Android.

I also find many of the arguments similar to Xbox vs PS3.The PS3 has more technical advantages (BluRay for a start) but the Xbox remains a popular package and my kids (aged 14-23) have no doubt they'd rather game on it. The difference between Linux and PS3 is that Sony markets the PS3 so PS3 sales exceed Xbox sales. Hardly anybody has a budget for marketing Linux in any flavor.
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I agree with the many people who have posted in these forums that Linux will not succeed until it come preinstalled on computers.
I also think there is another reason too. The most popular retailer in Brazil for instance lists their available desktop choices as pre-installed with:
  • Windows 8 (24)
  • Windows other (presumably 7) (1)
  • Mac (7)
  • Linux (31)

So, more options with Linux.

The issue is though that in my 9 years here I have hardly ever seen a legitimate copy of Windows and this must be the same in countries such as India, China and others. IMO if Windows was less easy to hack then more users would choose Linux. What they do here though is to buy a cheaper box preinstalled with Linux and then buy an illegal copy of Windows 7 for $5.
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I also think there is another reason too. The most popular retailer in Brazil for instance lists their available desktop choices as pre-installed with:
  • Windows 8 (24)
  • Windows other (presumably 7) (1)
  • Mac (7)
  • Linux (31)

So, more options with Linux.

The issue is though that in my 9 years here I have hardly ever seen a legitimate copy of Windows and this must be the same in countries such as India, China and others. IMO if Windows was less easy to hack then more users would choose Linux. What they do here though is to buy a cheaper box preinstalled with Linux and then buy an illegal copy of Windows 7 for $5.
So with price and availability roughly equivalent Linux doesn't beat Windows and people are replacing Linux with Windows.

You appear to be saying that Windows is better!?

In New Zealand we don't have as many options for Linux PCs or cheap Windows. I haven't seen an advertisement for a Linux PC for over a year.
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,i found Linux and did not look back and i'm so happy,there is not one single thing yet that i can't do with linux that i could do in windows
Just as we've been telling that freeware software's can do just about anything that their commercial counterparts can do. Or at least what's suitable and sufficient for us.
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I understand the title of this thread is win7 or linux but I phrased it that way to provoke a dialog. I love linux and I spend most of my time using linux Mint 14 (Mate) but when it comes to ripping a DVD to make a back-up of a legally purchased movie I find myself preferring to use win7. There is no "pure" reason to wrack my brains to do this with linux when its just a point and click operation with windows.

I have spent enough time on various linux forums and have witnesses the almost psychotic anti-windows point of view to not make a pro windows opinion. Couple this with the disaster that is win8 and its not worth even discussing it. That said win7 is a excellent platform and it blows vista out of the water.

I think at this point there is room enough for both as they live quite happily on my desktop with one hdd for windows and the other hdd for linux. I admire both and use both and have no problem supporting both.
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[QUOTE=wdhpr;90853...the disaster that is win8 ...[/QUOTE]

Windows 8 is the best performing version of Windows that I've used in the 25 years since I started with version 2.0. Right now I'm enjoying the improved integration with cloud storage.
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