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Old 27. Mar 2015, 08:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Some valuable feedback there Remah which I'm sure potential users of either distro will find useful.

I too experienced the restart issue with Neptune but this went away once the system had been updated. Sometimes these things can be theme specific too.

Regarding looks, I'm invariably not satisfied with the defaults served up and change pretty much everything including fonts, font sizes, window borders and icons. Sometimes I will use a different icon theme and even change the home folder icons manually to something else. Just depends on how I feel at the time. With KDE of course even the colors for menus, highlights, tool tips and other stuff can be changed so a completely personalized look is only limited by your own imagination.

I'd always thought the language updates were the result of me having to select English for the system language but Portuguese (Brazil) for the keyboard layout but obviously not. Even so, I often have to juggle the settings to get stuff like Conky and Superkaramba to display in English, even though the system already does.

Some dual boot installs are easier than others with a simple "install xxx alongside Windows" , choice, but others are not. The good news, although granted this needs learning once, is once you have a dual boot setup it's pretty straightforward to use the manual install option to replace the existing Linux with something else.

I've never had the luxury of an automatic network connection and have always had to configure my DSL for the live + install session. Occasionally (Solus) this would still be there after the install completed but mostly I have to re-configure it all over again. On top of that, the new modem now forced upon me by my secondary ISP for mobile broadband does not work with any distro I have tried it with so when my cable goes down I'm forced to use Windows. No doubt there is some geeky option using modeswitch or by editing the network files that the likes of you could sort out in 30 seconds but for the greater challenged such as myself, if it doesn't work when I plug it in I'll take the next easiest option.
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Once installed, the user experience is much improved over two years ago. It will be interesting to see how they go as I use the applications for more real work.
  • I've applied updates to Neptune so I'll see if the restart issue goes away.
  • It's frustrating that the cabled connection works automatically but only after I've manually connected first.
  • I plan to get Conky on Neptune - I haven't even looked to see if it is there. On ChaletOS it doesn't pick up my CPU temperatures which is the feature I want.
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Old 27. Mar 2015, 10:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Further info I should have added:
- Neptune often won't restart so I have to use the power button.
+ Neptune is 64-bit which I much prefer to 32-bit ChaletOS.
My mistake. ChaletOS is 64-bit. I just downloaded the wrong image.

So I'll get the joy of reinstalling it a better comparison of performance against Neptune.
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Old 27. Mar 2015, 10:12 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Once installed, the user experience is much improved over two years ago. It will be interesting to see how they go as I use the applications for more real work.
  • I've applied updates to Neptune so I'll see if the restart issue goes away.
  • It's frustrating that the cabled connection works automatically but only after I've manually connected first.
  • I plan to get Conky on Neptune - I haven't even looked to see if it is there. On ChaletOS it doesn't pick up my CPU temperatures which is the feature I want.
IMO the best way to go with Conky is this one, including the default theme pack.

http://www.teejeetech.in/p/conky-manager.html

My system needs lm_sensors installed and configured to pick up temperatures.
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Old 30. Mar 2015, 12:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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...[*]Debian is a less user-friendly/desktop-ready base than Ubuntu. Expect some rough edges.
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Another that has been around for a while is a German disto called Zeven OS Neptune. A new version has just been released that seeks to make Debian more user friendly, so Neptune 3.0 includes flash, codecs and a raft of other stuff all pre-installed to make life easy from the outset. The Neptune ISO can either be burned to a DVD or USB. This creates a live version you can try out on your existing system before deciding whether or not to make a full install either in place of Windows/your existing Linux or as a dual boot alongside it.

I dual booted Zeven Neptune alongside Windows 7, replacing my existing Linux in the process. Everything went smoothly and I really like how Zeven implements the KDE desktop. Chromium is the default browser but if like me you prefer Chrome this installs automatically from the downloaded package. Everything worked out of the box except when I installed Clementine it would not play radio streams until I installed some more Gstreamer stuff, but the Muon Package Manager handled all this and I was soon up and running. There is also a Muon Software Center for even easier program management.

The focus of the distro is in German although there is of course an English language install option and also an English forum where support is timely and constructive.

So, if you want to try a distro that is fast, looks gorgeous and works without falling over every five minutes, give Zeven OS Neptune 3.0 a try.
MC, you're original post has proven to be spot on for me.

Ubuntu has dramatically improved usability since I last installed it 5-6 years ago. The Software Centre has made it so easy to get applications up and running on ChaletOS, even .NET applications like KeePass.

I'm finding Neptune is far less comfortable to setup to match Windows. The package manager is less help than I expected. Now I've reread your post I'll try the Muon Software Center.
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MC, you're original post has proven to be spot on for me.

Ubuntu has dramatically improved usability since I last installed it 5-6 years ago. The Software Centre has made it so easy to get applications up and running on ChaletOS, even .NET applications like KeePass.

I'm finding Neptune is far less comfortable to setup to match Windows. The package manager is less help than I expected. Now I've reread your post I'll try the Muon Software Center.
Pleased you found it useful.

IMO another step forward in software centers is that included with Deepin (called Deepin Store) which even comes with a selection of skins. In fact the whole concept behind Deepin is so different, it is well worth look for that alone. Some users will no doubt find the customized DE too restricted but there are more choices for the various items now than in previous versions. You can also switch from a dock to a choice of panel layouts with just a couple of clicks.
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Pleased you found it useful.

IMO another step forward in software centers is that included with Deepin (called Deepin Store) which even comes with a selection of skins. In fact the whole concept behind Deepin is so different, it is well worth look for that alone. Some users will no doubt find the customized DE too restricted but there are more choices for the various items now than in previous versions. You can also switch from a dock to a choice of panel layouts with just a couple of clicks.
LOL. I don't usually do any customization so it's wasted on me. But if it's only a couple of clicks for a major change then that could be worthwhile.

I almost wish I hadn't started because I can see myself following more of your suggestions and getting deep into the rabbit hole of Windows replacements. (That pun is probably wasted too)

Anyway, I'll swap Neptune out and try Deepin instead. That keeps the same installed packages as a point of difference from ChaletOS, which has a better set in my opinion.
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I almost wish I hadn't started because I can see myself following more of your suggestions and getting deep into the rabbit hole of Windows replacements. (That pun is probably wasted too)
You might actually like Deepin then since it doesn't have a raft of customizing options, but IMO for a lot of users there is enough.

Their control panel is the most different to that found in other DE's but most I speak to find it logical and actually like the layout.

For wallpapers, a separate folder will appear in your Pictures directory after install into which you can add images for these to then appear as wallpaper choices.
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An updated release of ZevenOS Neptune, 4.4. has now been launched.

http://www.neptuneos.com/en/

With a download size of 1.8G you would expect it to contain most everything, and it does.

This release also contains a large update for hardware support and indeed is the first Neptune that will run on both my Intel based desktop and the older NVIDIA box.

If anyone is looking for an LTS, KDE distro based on Debian stable, Neptune is well worth a try.

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Is it an issue to install 64bit Linux as dual boot with 32bit Win 7 ?
Read somewhere that if you have more than 4G of RAM, it should be okay.
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