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Old 29. Oct 2012, 09:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is it o.k to do online banking with out of date live cd linux?

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Over the weekend i did my online banking using Kororaa live cd.

Anyway i downloaded the latest version they have and used imgburn to burn on a dvd.

Anyway i boot up the linux os by only using boot from cd. What i notice is obviously if you just boot from the cd you cannot change anything because the os boots from a cd.

Since all people say the safest way to do online is through a live cd because that way you cannot really get a virus, keyloggers stealing your passwords, my question is if the firefox is using 13 and most up to date is 16.02, and if only boot from a cd, does it matter if my firefox is out of date?

If i install the linux to my hdd, obviously then i need to update everything to be safe right?

So if i just boot from cd, 99% of the time i should be o.k even though the linux os and its browser is out of date?
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Old 29. Oct 2012, 11:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you're fine even without all those steps too

the fact is that almost all data compromise happens on the bank end, and not your end, what you do before sending the data wont affect it since it all ends up at same place, bank servers

I say this because it's really doubtful that anyone would be targeting you, when they would just target the bank for a bigger pay out :S plus they don't know where you are, but the banks are kind of set in where they are located
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Old 30. Oct 2012, 02:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The major reasons that you should update your browsers are these:

1. serious security flaws with older versions that may allow malicious websites to read your files, damage your files, steal your passwords, infect your computer with viruses …

(This is ok with your current setup, as you are running from live cd, so you don't have to worry about that)

2. Bugs in the previous versions which may create some problems when visiting websites like broken pages, freezes etc....

3. New features

Looking at your current setup it doesn't matter if you're using an older version of Firefox.
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Old 31. Oct 2012, 03:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Which Linux would be suited for just online banking?

Lightweight Portable Security (LPS) – A Linux distro from the US Department of Defense.

Ubuntu – fast, secure and easy-to-use.

Puppy Linux – A complete operating system with suite of GUI apps, only about 70 – 140MB, and boots directly off the CD.

KNOPPIX – Live Linux file system on CD.


ubuntu.

Mint.



I have tried using ubuntu and kororra and so far i like using linux. I haven't had time to try all the linux live cd.

The only problem i have with kororra is the firefox is only using v13.

Is out of all the options, which linux would best suited for online banking and most secure?
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Just for banking, I'd go for LPS. But any one of those you list would be just fine. I'd say give'em all a try (not doing banking) just to see which suits you best - looks, speed on your machine etc.

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What 1002richards says, plus it depends on how you connect. Ubuntu or Mint will be the easiest out of that selection to connect with, especially if you use DSL or a broadband modem. If LPS recognizes your connection though, I'd go with that as it's a custom build for the purpose.
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Old 12. Nov 2012, 01:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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thanks a lot guys... sorry for the late reply, been busy with work.

anyway i've tried using lsp, i cannot get to work.. after 2-3 seconds of loading my whole pc froze.

so i tried using kororra live cd = which was very easy to use but i find it has no security features besides it own firewall. all it is its just a firewall that says firewall=yes.

also i tried knoppix = it was easy to set up and use, but has no security feature besides ssl certification which is useless considering all the top banks have their websites ssl secure. for some reason using knoppix i cannot log into a certain bank online. it just says it will load the internet banking page but stays their. this is happens to bitdefender safepay.

i also tried ubuntu = this is the easiest to use and follow, but has no security feature besides delete track records. but for some reason using ubuntu i can log in to all my bank accounts while kororra didn't work with all banks.


my only concern using linux live cd is;

1. kororra uses old firefox 13 and ubuntu uses firefox 14. from alive cd i cannot update the firefox version.

i cannot really update any software batches because i am running the software from a dvd with all my hdd unplugged.

2. running from a live cd (dvd) ubuntu, kororra has no strong firewall, or secure encryption protocol, if it does i don't see it on live cd.

questions:

a) with windows its always a good idea to update windows, browsers before using, with live cd i know you're running the operating system from a cd/dvd, which no virus or trojans can load their bad stuff onto you're OS, unless you press yes to everything.

anyway so basically even though i most likely won't get a virus because i am running it from a live cd, will the data be secure using a older version of software transmitting my personal data with no firewall and real time protection? if it is safe can someone please explain how its safe?

b) if i want to install a strong firewall with antivirus, anti malware software that works with linux, what free programs will you recommend?

i just don't feel safe using a OS without a known firewall and real time protection.
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You don't need an antivirus for Linux. Scanners are available but these merely hunt for Windows viruses to prevent you passing them on to other Windows users. Linux ships with iptables that does packet filtering, network address translation (NAT), and port address translation (PAT). Additionally, some distributions include an enhancement for this such as Shorewall, UFW, Firestarter etc., although mostly these will require enabling and configuring. I can't speak for the others but Korora has a very strong firewall which achieves full stealth with GRC for what it's worth. Korora also employs SELinux. Other distros might use AppArmor instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor
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Thanks M.C... but when you're talking about Kororra, are you talking about Kororra (running from dvd) or install to hdd Kororra?

Because i've downloaded and currently using Kororaa 17 (Bubbles) KDE (Live DVD) and only running it on dvd. I disconnected all my internal hdd's.

I can't fin the firewall config for Kororra. Any advice please?
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Thanks M.C... but when you're talking about Kororra, are you talking about Kororra (running from dvd) or install to hdd Kororra?

Because i've downloaded and currently using Kororaa 17 (Bubbles) KDE (Live DVD) and only running it on dvd. I disconnected all my internal hdd's.

I can't fin the firewall config for Kororra. Any advice please?
Yes, you can run this from the Live DVD but obviously the changes don't save. Just type "firewall" into the main menu search box and the config link will appear.
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