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Old 24. Jul 2012, 08:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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For those that have noticed any of my rants about Gnome3 know I'm not very happy. I have gone the extra mile with Distros utilizing Gnome3. I have tried mightily to know and love Gnome3 but at every turn I have found nothing but disappointment. It should be noted that the Mate and Cinnamon developers have tried to give users a sane and traditional desktop by heavily patching Gnome.

Those that have been looking for an alternative to Gnome3 or Unity may very well find relief with KDE. I'm beginning to drift back to KDE and Plasma and I'm finding it to be better, allot better than my early Simple Mepis day and more recently my experience with PClinuOS. Sure there is some minor bugs that are more annoying than anything major. At some point those that are still using dated operating systems may have to make the choice between systems that continue to patch Gnome3 or change to KDE, XFCE or Enlightenment. I cant see how patching Gnome3 will be a long term solution.
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Old 24. Jul 2012, 09:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I tend to agree, whilst remembering there was a similar outcry when KDE moved from 3 to 4.
Although I still quote bits about resource use myself, the old moans about KDE being "heavy" are hardly relevant to modern machines except the lower end laptops.

Certainly E17 has not moved forward and been adopted by as many distros as I thought would happen, so their own upcoming release plus what Bodhi does with theirs when it goes final will ultimately determine how popular E17 is likely to get from here.

I still find Kororaa KDE to be my best overall experience and despite all the glitz it still runs with less resources than Windows 7 on the same machine.

I had hoped that Peppermint would have created something a bit more eye appealing with their 3 release but the screenshots look identical to the last version.
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Old 25. Jul 2012, 09:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I read a couple of review by Dedoimedo about OpenSuse 11.4 and 12.1 KDE. It seems Dedoimedo is quite fond of OpenSuse and Gave a glowing review of the 11.4 version not so good for 12.1 I have learned not to give his reviews absolute authority because he bases his reviews on 2 or 3 hours of use. However I find his review extremely useful for the basics and the obvious bugs. This has made the difference on which distros I choose to try out. I was going to give OpenSuse 12.1 a shot but may put it on the back burner because of the good things I've been hearing about Kororra. I would like to stick with Debian based systems due to my familiarity with Debian but I'm willing check out others.

I'm concerned that new and so-called improved distro's are suffering from a identity crisis. Are the developers trying as hard as they can to produce the best and stable product or racing to get the newest system out there even if they not completely ready. A recipe analogy comes to mind: Even if you use the very best ingredients it will be for not, unless its cooked until done.

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I find that the KDE menu has too many bells & whistles. I like menus that show what's installed and launch the app/programme when clicked.
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I find that the KDE menu has too many bells & whistles. I like menus that show what's installed and launch the app/programme when clicked.
One of the first things I do is switch over to the KDE "classic" menu option.

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Are the developers trying as hard as they can to produce the best and stable product or racing to get the newest system out there even if they not completely ready.
Comodo would feel right at home then with their own version of Linux
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Comodo would feel right at home then with their own version of Linux
Yes they would... May chaos reign supreme

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One of the first things I do is switch over to the KDE "classic" menu option
Took me a about a minute to switch, because this isn't my first dance with KDE.

PS I went ahead and gave OpenSuse 12.1 a whirl... maybe because I slow down to look at car crashes. Anyway after 45 minutes of waiting for updates I gave up on it.
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One of the first things I do is switch over to the KDE "classic" menu option.
Thanks for that tip!
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While everyone is in "trial" mode, why not check out the Chakra installer? I had my smiley face on at the weekend again for another neighbor who asked me to load Chakra into an existing laptop dual boot containing Windows 7 and Ubuntu (replacing the latter). The Chakra installer called "Tribe" has to be the most impressive GUI I've ever seen, but understanding it is another matter. I even managed to find an online tutorial but still had to abort the first attempt.

Had a quick look at the distro after install and it is rather nice. Didn't support many of the desktop effects which I don't think was related to his laptop which is a top end machine. LM Sensors does not work either (this is included in the Chakra notes) so getting any temperature readings to show up was also a no-no. No GUI package manager included either so you need to install this (Apper) via the terminal & Pacman.

If only these ******* things were all the same, Linux life would be so much easier.
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Just installed Mint13 KDE tried to install on top of Mint12 KDE and it didn't go well so I installed it as a fresh install. Looks good and so far no real issues although the update was rather long something like 380 packages. You would think since it was recently released it would have incorporated most of those changes... Oh well
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