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Anupam 04. Apr 2013 12:03 PM

Opera updated to 12.15.

Opera have changed the site, and it's ridiculous now. No details, nothing. No indicating what version of Opera is available for download. Only way to know is to start the actual download, and make it out from the file name.

No sign on release notes.

Maybe they are planning to update the site, once they make the big change to Webkit? Anyways, the present site is ridiculous.

deya 04. Apr 2013 01:09 PM

The release notes are here;

Desktop Team announcement is here;

Opera have also confirmed that they are going with Blink, as opposed to WebKit;

More about Blink here;

All a bit confusing really, at the moment, but I suppose things will become clearer in the coming weeks.

Anupam 04. Apr 2013 01:26 PM

Thanks for the links deya.. as always quite thorough.

Interesting to read about Blink, and that Opera will be making the move to Blink too. Interesting times ahead.

deya 04. Apr 2013 02:09 PM

I think this new development caught everyone by surprise really. You can read what Bruce Lawson has to say about it here;

Interesting, and also that he mentions Mozilla and Samsung teaming up for Servo.

Looks like there will be more diversity on the Web then we can all handle :)

I'm using the latest version of Opera, 12.15, and have been using the RC's for some time, via Next. It runs very well, no problems, I updated my primary Opera via the program, again, no problems. It's worth noting that this new version includes security fixes so, anyone using Opera should update to 12.15.

Sope 05. Apr 2013 11:01 AM

Like you Anupam, I do find it frustrating when software websites make it difficult to find the release notes / change log / version history for their programs.
I don't understand why they can't just provide an obvious link next to the download button. Also a checksum would be nice too. Simple things but very useful IMO.

The Opera website does seem to be developing more and more of a corporate (if that's the right term) look these days. The type of website that I find I can't be bothered to explore for lack of content of any interest :rolleyes:

I'm a long time user of Opera and overall find it a pleasure to use, though I have to say that for some time now I've noticed it developing increasingly more incompatibilities with the websites I use, most noticeably when trying to make online purchases/transactions. It's not unusual for me to have to turn to an alternative browser to complete these successfully. I believe it may be something to do with the way Opera handles javascript on these sites but I'm not sure.

Basically, I'm looking forward to Opera's fresh start with a new engine, and hopefully whichever direction they choose to go in will improve the browser's compatibility and reliability, which for me, has been slowly deteriorating for some time now.

Anupam 05. Apr 2013 01:42 PM

I have used Opera sometimes, but mostly I was put off by the sites not working properly, which I visited regularly. I was also put off by the lack of extensions, but they got that sorted recently, which is good.

Also, somehow its interface too didn't give me the feel of a browser, a personal opinion.

But nevertheless, I was impressed by its features, its customization, etc.

I too hope that for Opera, this change in the engine does them some good. I think they have decided to change the engine because of several reasons. First, Chrome has already become quite popular, the main advantage being its speed... Opera want to make use of that. Further, with this change, they get access to extensions for Chrome, and developers do not have to develop separate extensions for Opera. Although, it's a pity that developers who worked on extensions for Opera had their efforts in a bit of waste.
Also, with the change, they won't have to worry about development of the engine. So, they can concentrate their efforts in other areas.

Will be interesting to see how things work out for Opera.

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