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Old 18. Feb 2013, 11:03 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I think the keyboard shortcuts in question, which are more usually used in word processing, may be assigned to various custom options specific to Opera.
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Old 18. Feb 2013, 09:19 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Keyboard shortcuts not working for you in Opera? Strange...
George, when I was on Opera v12.11 and I was typing a post just like this one in a forum, I used to be able to use the following keyboard shortcuts:
CTRL/B = Bold
CTRL/I = Italics
CTRL/U = Underline
AFAIK, these are pretty much standard. Ever since I upgraded to v12.12, and every subsequent version up to v12.14, these keyboard shortcuts do the following:
CTRL/B = Bookmarks
CTRL/I = (no effect)
CTRL/U = Opened what looks like the HTML or code for the website (I'm guessing here because I'm still n00b about such things).
If you or anyone else using these versions of Opera could get the default keyboard shortcuts to work while typing a post on this forum, then you would really have me baffled.

As indicated in my prior exchanges here with deya, I gave their forum a try, and even went through the process of submitting a bug report. That's what things like that are there for, right? Wrong. deya's comment was I "got more faith than" himself. Well, I like to give things a try, 'less I be accused of not doing so. But I'd say, it wasn't too pleasant an experience.

@Sope, some people on Opera's forum did suggest that I make these custom assignments, but none of them gave me (a n00b) any kind of clear instructions on how to do it.

Also, how do you explain that it used to work in version 12.11 but not in v12.12 to v12.14?

Firefox, and even IE (which don't use unless I have to), has no problem with these keyboard shortcuts, so why should I agonize over it anymore?
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Old 18. Feb 2013, 10:49 PM   #93 (permalink)
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@Sope.......

........how do you explain that it used to work in version 12.11 but not in v12.12 to v12.14?
I have to admit that I rarely use the majority of keyboard shortcuts so I wouldn't have noticed the changes happening over the various upgrades.

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Firefox, and even IE (which don't use unless I have to), has no problem with these keyboard shortcuts, so why should I agonize over it anymore?
I wasn't suggesting you should agonise over it. It's sensible to use whatever you're happy with.

I may have a play about with it to satisfy my own curiosity now you've drawn my attention to it though
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Old 19. Feb 2013, 12:53 PM   #94 (permalink)
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@Joe A.TT

I've had a bit of a play around with those keyboard shortcuts but sadly have failed to come up with an acceptable solution for you (I'm no expert though!).

I did come across your thread at My.Opera.com in the process which initially did offer some hope.

Posts 2,5 and 6 of that thread do offer a solution of sorts which does work although doesn't return full functionality.
By using those instructions I could get the keyboard shortcuts to work properly only if you use the specific method of typing the required text in the box first, then highlight said text, and then activating the keyboard shortcut to apply your chosen format.

Post 17 of that thread gives a feasible explanation as to why Opera have made the change, and I suspect it is by intention rather than a bug, so I doubt a fix is likely (especially under the circumstances that Opera will be going through some big changes in the near future!). Over the years I've been using Opera I've become accustomed to their tendency to do things their own, sometimes unconventional, way.

Personally I don't feel any inconvenience in having to use the buttons provided within the forum text box to apply bold, italic and underlining (if I ever bother), though I can see how someone more used to using keyboard shortcuts might find it less convenient.

I can also confirm the functions you miss were present up to v12.02 but were removed for v12.10 and later.

In conclusion, I suspect that if these functions are of paramount importance to you then moving to another browser may be your best bet. You could always revisit Opera when it's new WebKit version is released
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Old 19. Feb 2013, 02:16 PM   #95 (permalink)
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@Sope,

I do appreciate your taking the time to look into this issue.

As to posts 2,5 & 6, if I had to highlight text after typing it then hit the keyboard shortcut, I might as well click on the soft shortcut buttons. What kind of solution is that? To me, it's pretty useless for them to suggest a fix or workaround that involves just as much work. In other words, it defeats the idea of having shortcuts in the first place.

As to post 17, sure, I can understand if Opera is set up to work in a certain way, or they have decided to change certain functions - that's their right - but why not come out and say so in the beginning? Why not state that in the release notes? Why make people feel they are fools? If it weren't for the supporting evidence from two other persons on that thread, I'd probably still be trying to prove my case.

I can understand too that other persons like yourself may choose to do things differently, or that they hardly ever use a certain feature, but that's individual preferences, as you say. However, for me, I use these keyboard shortcuts a lot and that's what mattered.

I'm glad you confirmed too that it worked in earlier versions. At least I won't have to ask myself if I'm going crazy .
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In conclusion, I suspect that if these functions are of paramount importance to you then moving to another browser may be your best bet. You could always revisit Opera when it's new WebKit version is released
That's why I've moved on to Firefox. Honestly, if I have no serious issues with Firefox, I'd hardly be tempted to look back. As mentioned in earlier exchanges with deya, the kind of aggravation and stress that came from dealing with the attitude I encountered on Opera's forum isn't worth my while. As it is, we get enough stress from other "unavoidables" in life, and adding to that is just plain dumb IMO.

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the kind of aggravation and stress that came from dealing with the attitude I encountered on Opera's forum isn't worth my while. As it is, we get enough stress from other "unavoidables" in life, and adding to that is just plain dumb IMO.
Sadly there are many people who post on internet forums who lack, shall we say, social skills (putting it politely). As you say, if it bothers you, the best policy is simply to ignore and move on.

I'm glad to say that Gizmo's seems to have an unusually low number of these types active on the forum.......which is nice
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I'm glad to say that Gizmo's seems to have an unusually low number of these types active on the forum.......which is nice
Yeah. I've noticed that too. Gizmo's is already such a great freeware site, and when one adds to that all the great folks on the forum, there isn't much more one can ask for. I'm so glad I found Gizmo's!
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Sadly there are many people who post on internet forums who lack, shall we say, social skills (putting it politely). As you say, if it bothers you, the best policy is simply to ignore and move on.

I'm glad to say that Gizmo's seems to have an unusually low number of these types active on the forum.......which is nice
And it will remain that way, hopefully . We have zero tolerance for spammers, and low tolerance for trouble makers. Generally, we get very nice people here on forum and the site, which is great. Even in the Gizmo team, almost all of the people we get are nice, cordial, friendly, good natured.. even Gizmo himself is a great person. The trouble makers do not last long here... they get themselves banned eventually sometime or later. I am lucky to be part of Gizmo's .
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And it will remain that way, hopefully . We have zero tolerance for spammers, and low tolerance for trouble makers.
It's easy to see that the hard work put in by the mods and editors plays a big part in maintaining the quality of Gizmo's and it's appreciated
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It's easy to see that the hard work put in by the mods and editors plays a big part in maintaining the quality of Gizmo's and it's appreciated
Thanks for the kind words , and the kind words and appreciation really boost us up. And I must say that the members of the forum, and the site are really great, which is what keeps us going too . Many of them are also silent, and just browse the site/forum, but they do pour in with words of appreciation and kindness when required, and it's really overwhelming to see how much people appreciate the site and how many of them are helped by the content on the site.

I really feel that this site brings together the real good people on the internet together, and that's something which is really awesome.
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