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Old 24. Apr 2011, 11:28 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I received this response from Martin Pekar the CEO of Netgate regarding BlackHawk:


"Main reason why we have started Blackhawk project is that we have previously used Firefox in company and most people we known used it too but over the time, the Firefox started to be much bloat and heavy on resources, even the starting of browser takes too long for my taste. Chrome speed is ok but the interface is not so much practical, probably for surfing its ok but for serious work I simply need real bookmarks menu, status bar to check destination links, etc. So the point of project is to make some kind of best of Firefox and Chrome in one browser, we use it in company and we have released it in hope that will be usefull for other people too".

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Old 24. Apr 2011, 12:32 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I received this response from Martin Pekar the CEO of Netgate regarding BlackHawk:


"Main reason why we have started Blackhawk project is that we have previously used Firefox in company and most people we known used it too but over the time, the Firefox started to be much bloat and heavy on resources, even the starting of browser takes too long for my taste. Chrome speed is ok but the interface is not so much practical, probably for surfing its ok but for serious work I simply need real bookmarks menu, status bar to check destination links, etc. So the point of project is to make some kind of best of Firefox and Chrome in one browser, we use it in company and we have released it in hope that will be usefull for other people too".

Please post anything here which might benefit this project so it can be passed back.
I tend to share their sentiment. It's why I've been trying out a few browsers here lately, and lot more so than I have in quite a while. I'm trying SRWare Iron right now, and I might take Blackhawk for a spin in the near future. I've been using Firefox as my primary default browser for several years, but Mozilla are falling behind in the performance category, I think. There's also a pretty decent selection of extensions for the Chrome variants now too.
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Old 24. Apr 2011, 04:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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What Martin has said there makes sense to me. If you can strip out what they term as 'bloat' and still end up with a browser that functions very well then why not? BlackHawk certainly does everything I want it to do, the extensions I've installed work fine, pages render quickly and the browser itself loads in an instant. I've been using it for a few days now and it hasn't caused me any problems at all.

Iron is very good, but BlackHawk is more than equal to it, I just prefer the BH interface so in that respect it's personal choice - and it's great to have that choice. As for the stuff about Firefox, I agree with that as well because I do notice a sluggishness when using it now. That's not to say I don't use it, I do, just much less than I used to.

In general I'm seeing the browsers that use WebKit performing better for me, Maxthon 3 has improved vastly, I think, because it uses WebKit as default engine. Opera is my default browser but it still does have it's page rendering issues sometimes. I never have that problem with the WebKit ones.

I think what JohhnyDollar has said there about trying out different browsers is the way to go at the moment, there is a lot of choice now, and some very good ones to try. As to how they perform will obviously vary on what you're running them on, personal preference to features and all the rest of it. I don't remember how I came across BH the other day, just a bit of luck, but I'm glad I decided to give it a go because my browsing is all the better for using it.
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Martin has convinced me to give Black Hawk a try.
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I had a quick look at BlackHawk and i can't see how it's any different from Chrome. Perhaps there's something i'm missing here? I keep a portable version of Iron for a second browser because it addresses a couple of privacy issues that are present in Chrome, and i'd be interested to know how BlackHawk compares in this respect.
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Don't know if it'll fully answer your question about privacy, garth. But you can read the EULA for BlackHawk here
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Don't know if it'll fully answer your question about privacy, garth. But you can read the EULA for BlackHawk here
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I read the EULA on the install but, as with the online version you linked to, there's no mention of data collection/retention while using the browser. Also there is nothing that refers directly to BlackHawk on the site privacy policy.
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Thanks deya
I read the EULA on the install but, as with the online version you linked to, there's no mention of data collection/retention while using the browser. Also there is nothing that refers directly to BlackHawk on the site privacy policy.
I don't think there is likely to be any issues of this nature with these guys. I'm now using it full time and (so far) it is the only error free browser I've used. The test will be when I come to do a large page edit on the main site. As indicated in another thread, SRWareIron used to freeze above a certain point and lose all the data.
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Anybody know if Roboform extension works in Blackhawk?
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Old 25. Apr 2011, 12:39 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I've been playing with BlackHawk again and i quite like it. I now see the difference between it and Chrome. The addition of a toolbar menu makes it much more usable, easier to configure and renders it a more familiar browsing experience for me as a long time Firefox user, especially once i got Adblock and Ghostery installed. As other people have already said, it's fast but i can't tell tell if it's any faster than SRWare Iron. All in all a good browser, and definitely one i would recommend trying for folk that haven't already.
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