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sa1 04. Apr 2010 04:56 PM

Create a file user.css in styles folder in the Opera installation directory with the following text. I don't know much of css and tried on only one or two pages so tell me if this doesn't work as expected.

body {background-color:#cccccc;}

P.S This is really getting offtopic now.
Edit: If you want to change frequently this option save in someothername.css and change filename in preferences>advanced>content>style options. Change it back to user.css when u want to disable it. A button can be created to easily do this but I don't have the time now.

Kyuzo 04. Apr 2010 05:00 PM

Perhaps off-topic, perhaps not, but may I ask: When you posters use your alternate browsers, do you uninstall IE, or keep it. One computer columnist in our local newspaper recommends uninstalling IE if you go with an alternate browser. I'm afraid I don't quite see the logic in that (to save space, perhaps), but I'm not a computer columnist.

Anupam 04. Apr 2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa1 (Post 26363)
He is saying that since he is already viewing the page, downloading the page is done at least once so why do that again? The transfer on saving should be from cache to hard-disk. not from web to hard-disk.

Ah OK, so that's what he was saying. Sorry, I misunderstood. Things were not clear for me, from his post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa1 (Post 26363)
You have never fiddled around with old versions of Opera, have you? The Show menu bar option has been there for long, but it became enabled by default in 10.5 . I don't think suddenly enabling that option is a radical change from their skin earlier prompted by a new browser.
The only thing Chrome brought was removal of title-bar.

Well, by menu bar, I meant the bar with File, Edit, View etc. You are referring to title bar in your post. Title bar is where the title of the page appears. Both are different. Chrome does not have both. There is no title bar, as well as no menu bar. And Opera have adopted the same too. Menu bar was there for Opera before... but they have done away with it, and the browser now seems like Chrome, there is no denying that fact.

And yes, I have used older versions of Opera... but not much... so I wouldn't know about Opera in that detail.

Thanks for explaining about the caching and memory use of different browsers.

Anupam 04. Apr 2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo (Post 26367)
Perhaps off-topic, perhaps not, but may I ask: When you posters use your alternate browsers, do you uninstall IE, or keep it. One computer columnist in our local newspaper recommends uninstalling IE if you go with an alternate browser. I'm afraid I don't quite see the logic in that (to save space, perhaps), but I'm not a computer columnist.

I keep IE. I still have IE6 on my PC :D. But, I never use it. Some sites require IE to function correctly... and that's why I keep it. Also, I think IE is difficult to remove from Windows, and requires workaround to remove. The main TSA site has such an article to remove IE. So, its better to keep it IMO, rather than go through hoops to remove it.

sa1 04. Apr 2010 07:50 PM

I am saying that there was an option to remove menu bar(The file edit menu) so thats not something original done by Chrome. Also the entire menu/toolbar setup of Opera is fully customisable since forever unlike Chrome. However removal of title bar is something Chrome brought to the game.
Edit: If you need to see a browser that is unoriginal don't point at Opera or else the same thing can be applied to firefox etc for tabs . Look at Maxthon's interface and what it has done with version 3.

Anupam 04. Apr 2010 07:54 PM

Well, Chrome has done away with both the Menu Bar, and the Title Bar... and its only now that Opera has come with this new look. Its definitely inspired by Chrome.

sa1 04. Apr 2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 26383)
Well, Chrome has done away with both the Menu Bar, and the Title Bar... and its only now that Opera has come with this new look. Its definitely inspired by Chrome.

The argument is becoming rather pointless. If you would have followed the entire Opera skin history with menu bar disabled you would see so little change in 10.50 that it would be hard to believe its anything but evolutionary even if it inspired by Chrome. Unlike Maxthon which has changed its entire interface to become Opera or Chrome-like. Have you seen the new bookmark manager in Chrome dev build.? Seems a complete ripoff of some browser. Had you seen tabs when Firefox ala Phoenix came out? In your words, they should have done something original instead.

Such arguments can go both ways so we should refrain from making such statements about software and help users choose the best browser in a objective way.

Anupam 04. Apr 2010 08:44 PM

Well, my motive is not to make petty arguments, just saying what I saw, and felt. My immediate reaction on seeing the new Opera was that the look is like Chrome. I don't know about the browser's history in detail though. I haven't used Maxthon at all, so I really can't say anything about it. Browsers have been picking up on features from each other. With so many browsers out there, it really is quite a competition.

Sometime ago, Firefox mock themes had come out, which had tabs with the look of Chrome. I was thinking to myself, why are they trying to get a look like that.. which would seem an imitation. I like the Firefox present tab look the best, and wish they will not change it. Meaning to say, if Firefox also change their look later by getting inspired from another browser, I would not like it.

Anyways, yes, looks will not matter much... what will matter is how the browser performs ultimately.

sa1 04. Apr 2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anupam (Post 26394)
Well, my motive is not to make petty arguments, just saying what I saw, and felt. My immediate reaction on seeing the new Opera was that the look is like Chrome. I don't know about the browser's history in detail though. I haven't used Maxthon at all, so I really can't say anything about it. Browsers have been picking up on features from each other. With so many browsers out there, it really is quite a competition.

Sometime ago, Firefox mock themes had come out, which had tabs with the look of Chrome. I was thinking to myself, why are they trying to get a look like that.. which would seem an imitation. I like the Firefox present tab look the best, and wish they will not change it. Meaning to say, if Firefox also change their look later by getting inspired from another browser, I would not like it.

Anyways, yes, looks will not matter much... what will matter is how the browser performs ultimately.

I am sure Opera and Firefox are customisable enough so that if you don't like it you can change it, unlike Chrome. Don't doubt your motivations but we are all biased in favor of our favorite browsers and sometimes we have to see how objective our way of judging browsers is especially if we are not just an end user but also referees on a freeware site.
The day Opera 10.5's first build was released, on the same day or 1 or 2 days ago Firefox 4 mockups had been released and a popular tech blog went as far as to say that Opera 10.5's 'real build' was copying from Firefox's 'mockups'.


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