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Old 14. Oct 2010, 03:46 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I also disabled the Java Deployment Toolkit plugin, which is not needed.
Thanks Anupam. I did not realize the Toolkit plugin could be disabled too.
So when there is a Java Update, Oracle dumps a lot of crap onto your machine including trying to install imagin software which I've never hear of before. Oracle needs to change their ways or the Java programmers will revolt as the Openoffice programmers did and take the code to open source. LOL...we can only hope.


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Old 14. Oct 2010, 06:46 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Imagin software? I haven't heard of that too. I did not come across it while installing JRE. Does it get installed via automatic update?
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Old 14. Oct 2010, 07:10 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Imaging software. Sorry about that. I did the manual update and the installer package came with the option to install a trial version of drive imaging software that I never heard of checked. I had to uncheck the option to install the software trial. Sneaky move just like the toolbars that come with Foxit. You have to be careful to uncheck the option to install. I updated through the JRE's manual update.
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Old 15. Oct 2010, 05:32 AM   #44 (permalink)
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By JRE's manual update, you mean the update built within JRE?

As I wrote earlier, I downloaded the setup file from the Oracle site, and then installed JRE via setup. I did not see any option to install any imaging software. I checked Add/Remove too, there is nothing like that, which might have got installed.

Maybe that is available from built-in update only?
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Old 15. Oct 2010, 06:07 PM   #45 (permalink)
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By JRE's manual update, you mean the update built within JRE?

As I wrote earlier, I downloaded the setup file from the Oracle site, and then installed JRE via setup. I did not see any option to install any imaging software. I checked Add/Remove too, there is nothing like that, which might have got installed.

Maybe that is available from built-in update only?
Hi Anupam-
Yes, I mean the manual update built into JRE. From now on I will download updates directly from the Oracle site. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Quite odd what you're reporting. I did the manual update from within the Java Console, but didn't get any prompt to install anything extra.
The only "extras" I got are the usual unwanted add-ons and plugins.
Updating Java is a time consuming task - update's completed in a couple of minutes and uninstalling all the unwanted stuff takes double that time.

The installer needs some serious improvement.
I was thinking of contacting Sun about this, but the only thing I found on Java's site is a feedback form.
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I've updated Java on a few PC's this time around and all of them have offered to install either Yahoo or Google Toolbar (ticked by default) during the install process. This has been both via the Java control panel applet and in response to an automatic update notification.
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Old 16. Oct 2010, 12:07 PM   #48 (permalink)
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This is really sneaky stuff. Who would expect that an auto update, or a manual update from within JRE would try to install extra stuff. Not good practice in my opinion. If such reputed companies do such things, what can we expect from others. Recently, this is being seen with Adobe Flash Player too. If you try to install Flash Player via online installer, it will install McAfee related software, if you are not careful. I don't think many people are that well versed with computers to prevent this, and these companies are relying on such people for their business.
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Old 16. Oct 2010, 02:47 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Hi,

What buffles me, is that there doesn't seem to be any logic behind the behavior of the installer/ update-installer. Why do some people get prompts to install additional stuff and others don't? And what determines which stuff is offered to be installed?
Reading through the posts here, more than one versions of the installer/ update-installer seem to exist. Besides, being sneaky, this starts to sound suspicious - or is it just my privacy paranoia kicking-in?
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Old 16. Oct 2010, 03:08 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I think there are two methods via which JRE can be updated. One is by downloading the setup file of JRE from the Oracle site. I update by that method, and I can say its clean. I did not see any extras being offered via the setup file. There is just one option to change the destination folder, which is there when the setup starts.

The other method is via the inbuilt update from JRE which is already installed on the system. This option can be found via the Java Control Panel from Control Panel of system. In the Java Control Panel, there is a tab of "Update". Under that, I always uncheck the option of "Check for updates automatically". When I uncheck it, it gives an option of "Never Check" in a drop down list. I select that. This makes sure that JRE never checks for updates, and also disables the jusched.exe process.

In the same tab, towards the end, there is a button for "Update Now". Taurus and Sope might be talking about that. Or, if they kept the option for "Check for updates automatically", then automatic updates might occur too.

But, Taurus and Sope are both reporting that they encountered different software while updating via that method. So, that is confusing to me.

I think the best bet is to download the setup file, and then update JRE.
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