The New Microsoft Edge - Page 4

danielson · 20. Apr 2020, 02:10 PM

Edge might be getting (slowly) better, but i'm always leary about what Microsoft is up to and what other tricks they will pull on us. First there was Hotmail, then Live, then Outlook (talk about confusion with Outlook email client!). Then we had this recent video on Youtube (that was fortunately pulled down) on Easter Sunday featuring none other than Marina Abramovic (Satanist of all people!).

Things just smell bad at Microsoft and it's not just Edge sending user info. to headquarters.

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@Panzer - thank you for the tips!

Panzer · 20. Apr 2020, 09:16 PM

You are welcome, son of Daniel.

Regarding Youtube: Yesterday I opened the YouTube App and instead of some Roberto Carlos video like usual Google offered me to watch a video about a guy which commited suicide (everything was filmed).

Talking about Google not being evil'n'stuff.

deya · 20. Apr 2020, 11:19 PM

Ok, so I looked up Marina Abramovic. I don't know what she has to do with not trusting Microsoft or Edge not being a good browser - or Bill Gates being a lizard or whatever. That kind of stuff is lost on me be I appreciate people have different theories, especially with how the world is at this moment in time.

I don't trust any big tech company to be honest, and I've definitely stopped using software because of the opinion I've formed on the companies that develop it. So your mistrust of Microsoft is normal, but I would say that there are worse companies around. It's just the way it is

danielson · 02. May 2020, 03:43 AM

View this report by J. Corbett and prove any mistakes with regards to Gates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQSYdAX_9JY

Connection with Microsoft spying and Gates is far from over.

deya · 03. May 2020, 10:01 AM

danielson; If you don't trust Microsoft that's fine, and I've stated that I don't trust any big tech company either, that includes Microsoft. But if you want to discuss the stuff related to that video and other aspects of what's going on in the world at the moment then maybe start a thread in the ChitChat section of the forum? ..... and by doing that, I and maybe others would be happy to contribute our thoughts, opinions and theories?

In the meantime, Edge Stable has had security updates, twice, in the last few days and now stands at Version 81.0.416.68. So, security issues are being dealt with quickly, which is reassuring. And Microsoft seem to be applying said updates more promptly than certain other Chromium browsers are, which is why I now have it set as my default browser - amongst other things.

danielson · 03. May 2020, 02:16 PM

How do you deal with Edge telemetry?

Suppose there's no real way to get out of that for any browser.

deya · 03. May 2020, 11:17 PM

Microsoft Edge, browsing data, and privacy;

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ta-and-privacy

... that's what they say they collect.

Edge is said to be one of the two least private browsers;

https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-prof...ft-isnt-happy/

.... that's probably what you're referring to in your post. And in that piece, someone from MS gives a response.

Windows Settings - Privacy - Diagnostics & feedback - Delete diagnostic data; ... that's what they mean when they say (quote) "something which is not offered by all vendors."

Use the browser settings to enable or disable things until you're satisfied and comfortable with it - same applies to the Windows settings. I never sign into the browser to sync or whatever. I see no need for it (personally) although I appreciate it's a must for others.

In Edge privacy settings; 'Manage your data and additional advertising settings from the Microsoft privacy dashboard' ... if you have a Microsoft account sign into it and see what's stored there. I did it this afternoon, there's nothing there. Search, location, etc. Nothing.

Telemetry is everywhere so no, I don't think you can avoid it with other browsers, no matter what they say. What's the latest saying? - data is the new oil? I suppose there's the answer.

Panzer · 04. May 2020, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deya

data is the new oil?

You are correct although oil isn't worth much these days ...

Panzer · 04. May 2020, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deya

In Edge privacy settings; 'Manage your data and additional advertising settings from the Microsoft privacy dashboard' ... if you have a Microsoft account sign into it and see what's stored there. I did it this afternoon, there's nothing there. Search, location, etc. Nothing.

You actually believe they are going to show you what data they collect?

deya · 04. May 2020, 05:49 PM

Panzer; no, I don't believe they show everything they collect but it keeps me happy believing that they do

It's all a game isn't it? Like when you buy a can of tuna fish here in the UK with a picture of a dolphin on the label stating 'this tuna is dolphin friendly' .... but how do you know that unless you were there on the boat when they caught it? It's all about appeasing people

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20. Apr 2020, 02:10 PM	#31 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,136	Edge might be getting (slowly) better, but i'm always leary about what Microsoft is up to and what other tricks they will pull on us. First there was Hotmail, then Live, then Outlook (talk about confusion with Outlook email client!). Then we had this recent video on Youtube (that was fortunately pulled down) on Easter Sunday featuring none other than Marina Abramovic (Satanist of all people!). Things just smell bad at Microsoft and it's not just Edge sending user info. to headquarters. - - - - - @Panzer - thank you for the tips!

20. Apr 2020, 11:19 PM	#33 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Ok, so I looked up Marina Abramovic. I don't know what she has to do with not trusting Microsoft or Edge not being a good browser - or Bill Gates being a lizard or whatever. That kind of stuff is lost on me be I appreciate people have different theories, especially with how the world is at this moment in time. I don't trust any big tech company to be honest, and I've definitely stopped using software because of the opinion I've formed on the companies that develop it. So your mistrust of Microsoft is normal, but I would say that there are worse companies around. It's just the way it is

02. May 2020, 03:43 AM	#34 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,136	View this report by J. Corbett and prove any mistakes with regards to Gates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQSYdAX_9JY Connection with Microsoft spying and Gates is far from over.

03. May 2020, 10:01 AM	#35 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	danielson; If you don't trust Microsoft that's fine, and I've stated that I don't trust any big tech company either, that includes Microsoft. But if you want to discuss the stuff related to that video and other aspects of what's going on in the world at the moment then maybe start a thread in the ChitChat section of the forum? ..... and by doing that, I and maybe others would be happy to contribute our thoughts, opinions and theories? In the meantime, Edge Stable has had security updates, twice, in the last few days and now stands at Version 81.0.416.68. So, security issues are being dealt with quickly, which is reassuring. And Microsoft seem to be applying said updates more promptly than certain other Chromium browsers are, which is why I now have it set as my default browser - amongst other things.

03. May 2020, 02:16 PM	#36 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,136	How do you deal with Edge telemetry? Suppose there's no real way to get out of that for any browser.

03. May 2020, 11:17 PM	#37 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Microsoft Edge, browsing data, and privacy; https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ta-and-privacy ... that's what they say they collect. Edge is said to be one of the two least private browsers; https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-prof...ft-isnt-happy/ .... that's probably what you're referring to in your post. And in that piece, someone from MS gives a response. Windows Settings - Privacy - Diagnostics & feedback - Delete diagnostic data; ... that's what they mean when they say (quote) "something which is not offered by all vendors." Use the browser settings to enable or disable things until you're satisfied and comfortable with it - same applies to the Windows settings. I never sign into the browser to sync or whatever. I see no need for it (personally) although I appreciate it's a must for others. In Edge privacy settings; 'Manage your data and additional advertising settings from the Microsoft privacy dashboard' ... if you have a Microsoft account sign into it and see what's stored there. I did it this afternoon, there's nothing there. Search, location, etc. Nothing. Telemetry is everywhere so no, I don't think you can avoid it with other browsers, no matter what they say. What's the latest saying? - data is the new oil? I suppose there's the answer.

04. May 2020, 05:49 PM	#40 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Panzer; no, I don't believe they show everything they collect but it keeps me happy believing that they do It's all a game isn't it? Like when you buy a can of tuna fish here in the UK with a picture of a dolphin on the label stating 'this tuna is dolphin friendly' .... but how do you know that unless you were there on the boat when they caught it? It's all about appeasing people