The New Microsoft Edge - Page 2

Panzer · 03. Apr 2020, 05:30 AM

https://beebom.com/edge-surpasses-firefox/

danielson · 08. Apr 2020, 01:16 AM

Well, as much as i've disliked Mozilla's moves with Firefox, recent covid-19 events and surrounding, background things such as Gates wanting to vaccine the planet (cf. mid-way in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Aps2NPe54) make me want to go back to the underdog, Firefox.

Panzer · 09. Apr 2020, 08:43 PM

Son of Daniel, looks like FF is upgrading their telemetry with every new release:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...-is-every-day/

You could be adventurous and try new browsers like:
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/browser (don't know if you should trust them)
or if you are on Linux:
https://hacktivis.me/projects/badwolf

danielson · 11. Apr 2020, 06:26 PM

@Panzer - i get your drift as they say (or used to say) in California.

Seems like every time you get a bit comfortable with one browser... poof!
Something nasty makes its way in to ruin the party.

Panzer · 11. Apr 2020, 09:13 PM

That's life. If it gives you lemons, make a lemonade.

danielson · 12. Apr 2020, 02:08 PM

Igor says it well:

Maybe I'm just becoming older, wiser and naturally more cynical as time goes by, but I cannot escape the feeling that software quality is continuously going down down down. Less effort goes into making stable and robust products, more of it goes into shiny buzzwords and perceived speed of innovation. This is not strictly Firefox, but the entire industry as a whole. Which means people who expect sane, predictable behavior from their software now get to face random, crazy little bugs and buglets all over the place. Welcome to the future, where abstraction is interaction.

https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/...t-browser.html

deya · 14. Apr 2020, 04:47 PM

Well, like it or not like it, trust it or don't trust it, whichever way is fine but Edge Stable has been updated with quite a few changes, to Version 81.0.416.53.

Here's the changelog;

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dep...stable-channel

One of the things I like about Edge is the drop down address bar when in full screen mode, which doesn't seem to get mentioned much. Just move the mouse to the top of the screen and the browser frame drops down. I think Firefox does this? ... not sure, but anyway, I like being able to do that. You need to go into the flags to enable it - Enable Fullscreen Dropdown. Nice feature.

danielson · 16. Apr 2020, 02:00 AM

True, and a good thing to bring up, but Firefox still has the "edge" since Ctrl+l will bring you to the url box. Not so with ChromEdge. Oh no!

deya · 16. Apr 2020, 09:57 AM

True, Ctrl=l just highlights the url in Edge, but doesn't auto show the address bar. I prefer the mouse hover anyway so no worries. List of shortcuts here;

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...oard-shortcuts

... and you can now add to that F9, which puts the browser into immersive reader mode.

It's worth trying some of the flags, in the Stable version. Tab Groups is worth trying;

"Allows users to organize tabs into visually distinct groups, e.g. to separate tabs associated with different tasks. – Mac, Windows" .... it works well.

Panzer · 16. Apr 2020, 11:59 AM

https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/...e-android.html

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03. Apr 2020, 05:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Panzer Editor Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 713	https://beebom.com/edge-surpasses-firefox/

08. Apr 2020, 01:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,162	Well, as much as i've disliked Mozilla's moves with Firefox, recent covid-19 events and surrounding, background things such as Gates wanting to vaccine the planet (cf. mid-way in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Aps2NPe54) make me want to go back to the underdog, Firefox.

09. Apr 2020, 08:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Panzer Editor Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 713	Son of Daniel, looks like FF is upgrading their telemetry with every new release: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...-is-every-day/ You could be adventurous and try new browsers like: http://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/browser (don't know if you should trust them) or if you are on Linux: https://hacktivis.me/projects/badwolf

11. Apr 2020, 06:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,162	@Panzer - i get your drift as they say (or used to say) in California. Seems like every time you get a bit comfortable with one browser... poof! Something nasty makes its way in to ruin the party.

11. Apr 2020, 09:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Panzer Editor Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 713	That's life. If it gives you lemons, make a lemonade.

12. Apr 2020, 02:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,162	Igor says it well: Maybe I'm just becoming older, wiser and naturally more cynical as time goes by, but I cannot escape the feeling that software quality is continuously going down down down. Less effort goes into making stable and robust products, more of it goes into shiny buzzwords and perceived speed of innovation. This is not strictly Firefox, but the entire industry as a whole. Which means people who expect sane, predictable behavior from their software now get to face random, crazy little bugs and buglets all over the place. Welcome to the future, where abstraction is interaction. https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/...t-browser.html

14. Apr 2020, 04:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	Well, like it or not like it, trust it or don't trust it, whichever way is fine but Edge Stable has been updated with quite a few changes, to Version 81.0.416.53. Here's the changelog; https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dep...stable-channel One of the things I like about Edge is the drop down address bar when in full screen mode, which doesn't seem to get mentioned much. Just move the mouse to the top of the screen and the browser frame drops down. I think Firefox does this? ... not sure, but anyway, I like being able to do that. You need to go into the flags to enable it - Enable Fullscreen Dropdown. Nice feature.

16. Apr 2020, 02:00 AM	#18 (permalink)
danielson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,162	True, and a good thing to bring up, but Firefox still has the "edge" since Ctrl+l will bring you to the url box. Not so with ChromEdge. Oh no!

16. Apr 2020, 09:57 AM	#19 (permalink)
deya Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,518	True, Ctrl=l just highlights the url in Edge, but doesn't auto show the address bar. I prefer the mouse hover anyway so no worries. List of shortcuts here; https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...oard-shortcuts ... and you can now add to that F9, which puts the browser into immersive reader mode. It's worth trying some of the flags, in the Stable version. Tab Groups is worth trying; "Allows users to organize tabs into visually distinct groups, e.g. to separate tabs associated with different tasks. – Mac, Windows" .... it works well.

16. Apr 2020, 11:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
Panzer Editor Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 713	https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/...e-android.html