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deya 11. Mar 2019 07:10 PM

Opera 60.0.3254.0 developer update;

"With this build, we’re providing more Reborn 3 visual improvements" .....

For many, that's probably the worrying part, EldonW :)

deya 09. Apr 2019 05:20 PM

Opera introduces Reborn 3, the first desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker;

"Reborn 3 (Opera 60) was designed to improve people’s control over their privacy, security, and to give them access to Web 3, the Web of the future" .....

This is the Stable release.

danielson 12. Apr 2019 02:10 PM

Interesting, probably for VPN bit, but still nothing to get over excited about.

While Brave might be fastest, Slimjet is highest ranking on and Opera uses least resources (at least on my PC).

danielson 13. Apr 2019 03:38 AM

You know what's a mystery to me?

Opera offering a staunch VPN service while keeping a knowitallspying search engine.
Can the two co-exist?
Or is the 1st somehow a slave to the 2nd to which we have not figured out yet how?

EldonW 13. Apr 2019 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by danielson (Post 125248)
You know what's a mystery to me?

Opera offering a staunch VPN service while keeping a knowitallspying search engine.
Can the two co-exist?
Or is the 1st somehow a slave to the 2nd to which we have not figured out yet how?

Is Opera R3 a web browser?
Or a politician? :rolleyes:

deya 13. Apr 2019 03:39 PM

In all honesty, have to say that this isn't one of their finest releases. Even with a fresh Opera install, a good spec PC and a fast (ethernet) fibre broadband connection the browser is a little sluggish. Pages don't load as quickly as they should, VPN on or off, and the browser itself takes longer to load at start. Four extensions installed so nothing excessive there, and all the news feeds etc. turned off.

I scratch my head at times and wonder what the heck they're trying to do here, I really do. Fair enough, the free VPN is a nice idea but why get rid of Turbo? ... you used to have the choice but now, having the VPN enabled slows the browser down - my opinion.

In the blog post they say that "Web users are finding their browsing increasingly disrupted by ads" but with a fresh install of the browser all you get is a speed dial full of them, and I wouldn't say that the built-in ad blocker is particularly good either so uBlock is still required. Add to that a list of sponsored search engines that I neither want nor use, that cannot be deleted, and it seems to me there's a certain amount of hypocrisy going on here from Opera.

With each of these Reborn attempts the browser doesn't seem to improve much at all, and the amount of complaints in the comments section of their blog appears to confirm this. They don't seem to be making many friends, that's for sure.

The Opera developers, those that are left, have a vision and I respect that. They're looking to the future and again I respect that, but they are also alienating a large number of their core users and, as has been pointed on here before, they've stopped listening to them. That's not a good thing in any business, in fact it's crazy and a sure fire way to lose customers - so to speak. The 'we know best' blinkered approach to any product is a bad one.

I've used Opera for too long, I'll never not use it. But I will use it less and less (I am using it less and less) if they continue to push their ideas and ideals in the way they are now doing. Too many good features are gone, too many pointless features have replaced them - pointless to me at least.

I mentioned in the other Opera thread that the new MS Edge may ruffle a few feathers in the Chromium world and very much believe that to be the case, in fact I'd bet money on it. Similar to when MS introduced their own anti-virus, MSE (now Defender) and the effect that had on third party AV's, so will be the case with their new Chromium browser if they get it right and that won't be good for Opera et al. Harsh but true, not everyone despises Microsoft.

In terms of browsers, Opera is a niche product and niche products need to keep their user base happy - take Vivaldi for an example. It's not easy, I know. But Opera need to listen more.

danielson 14. Apr 2019 01:55 AM

@deya - wow!
That was quite the chapter!!
You nailed it quite right, "bloody well right!"

@EldonW - good point.
Is it possible to make product so seamless without some degree of politiking involved (Mozilla/Brave)?

Anupam 16. Apr 2019 05:02 PM

You can use the Opera VPN in the browser without creating an account for it?

deya 16. Apr 2019 06:09 PM

Yes you can, Anupam, no account required. You can enable it via 'Settings - Advanced - Features'

Then you can control it, on/off, choice of virtual location etc, from the address bar.

From the blog post;

"Our browser VPN is completely free and unlimited, as well as being a no-log service. Our VPN servers do not log or retain any activity data" ...

Anupam 16. Apr 2019 07:43 PM

Thanks deya, that sounds quite good. I might try Opera just for it :p

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