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Old 13. Dec 2017, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am thinking of moving away from Mozilla to an alternate browser. I have looked at the information on this site but I am unable to make a decision.

With Firefox I am using addons, Self-Destructing Cookies, Ghostery, Privacy badger, BetterPrivacy and Noscript. Search engines are DuckDuckGo, StartPage and Ixquick. My difficulty is finding one that can accommodate all these or their equivalents at least. Other than Google Chrome, which I don't want to use. Any suggestions would be most welcome.

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Old 13. Dec 2017, 08:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's a hard choice to make, and a personal one. There are just so many browsers out there, you could try them all (I have, over time) and still end up staying with Firefox or whatever you've always used. It can be an arduous task, time consuming and in the end you wonder if it's worth it. But it can also be really rewarding, seeing what's out there, especially if you come across one that appeals to you. Getting the best from some browsers can also be dependant on which operating system you're using; Windows - XP, 7, 10 etc, or Linux and so on. You need to take that into account.

Looking at your list of requirements, maybe start with looking at some of the more privacy and security based browsers.

Some here;

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/2-anony...rivate-secure/

.. and here;

https://www.techworld.com/security/b...wsers-3246550/

There's a full list of browsers, here;

https://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/browsers-list

... it also tells you which are discontinued, and there are a few which are not recommended to download. It's quite a comprehensive list, and from it you'll see just how much choice there is.

I try different browsers frequently, just to see what's different or maybe to see how others are developing. A good way to try some of them is to download the portable version, saves doing a full install but you still get to see what the browser's all about.

Personal choice, personal opinions on things such as where a browser is developed and based, country of origin - the politics of it all. Opinions vary, massively, and in the end only you can decide on that. You may not be comfortable using what me or the next guy uses - and in that respect you may be better off trying the more dominant browsers out there, the one's that top the list in popularity worldwide.

At the moment I have three browsers installed, other than the ones that come with the operating system (Win10) - Opera, Firefox and Yandex. They're all good in their own way, and for varying reasons. Yandex is my default browser, but the thought of that will send a shudder down the spine of many people because of its country of origin and that's fine. You can do nothing about that, but it suits my needs, my choice. I also use MS Edge quite a lot, though many people don't like it.

Try a few, but keep them installed for a while and use them. You can't always form an opinion in a short time. I think you'll find it difficult to switch from Firefox if you've used it for a long time to be honest. It's not as easy a choice to make as you might think.

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Thank you for the lengthy explanation. I am certainly in agreement with all the points you have raised. It's going to take some doing and as you say, may not be worth the trouble in the end. With the help of of the links you have kindly provided I can do the same thing that you do - try out some other browsers while keeping Firefox.

What you say about Yandex is interesting. In fact I have been curious about it for some time. I don't have any problem about it's country of origin. If I like it I will certainly use it. As you correctly point out it is a personal choice. After all, what can Yandex do to us that Google is not doing already

I am not easily surprised about anything, but seeing 102 browsers at your 3rd link nearly knocked me on my ear. Yes I counted them! Thank you once again for such a comprehensive explanation.

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Old 14. Dec 2017, 02:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I like Vivaldi
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Old 14. Dec 2017, 06:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I've tried about 10 over the past year or so. Of them all, I liked Vivaldi probably the best. I've gone back to Chrome for now, mainly because I have so many devices and I really like it's ability to sync bookmarks across all platforms. (I know that other browsers may have a similar ability.)
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When it comes to browsers, it's all about personal preferences. So, you will have to try out different browsers to see which suits you the best.

As for add-ons, again, you will have to try them on your own, and find alternatives to them. If anyone uses similar extensions on another browser, then they might be able to suggest, but otherwise, it's only you who has to find out.

As for browsers worth trying out, you can have a look at Opera, Vivaldi, Slimjet. The base of all is Chromium though.
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Just tried Yandex. Apart from a few niggles with things I couldn't install the next thing it did was crash. Went back to Slimjet.
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Just tried Yandex. Apart from a few niggles with things I couldn't install the next thing it did was crash. Went back to Slimjet.
Tried Yandex for the 10th time ... Looks better, feels better but wouldn't let me install FVD speed dial.
tried turning off all the blockers and still came up an error also it acts like other chrome browsers.....it's Ram heavy when you have lots of tabs like me...
Which for some reason Vivaldi doesn't do..
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Old 14. Dec 2017, 04:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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That extension (FVD) is "not technically compatible with Yandex browser" as per error message when attempting to install it, CASD;

https://yandex.com/support/browser-c...-not-supported

They recommend "installing extensions from the Yandex.Browser extension catalog to be sure of their safety" as stated on that page.

Anyway, as I said, we're going to differ when it comes to what's best for us as individuals regarding this subject - browsers. That's what makes it so difficult to make suggestions when people ask the question that's being asked by Melita-s in this thread.

Also the use of extensions can dramatically alter the performance of browsers and alter the way we each view the Web ... adblockers, script blockers etc. If extensions are a big part of your browsing experience then it has to be taken into account which extensions are compatible with which browser, as Anupam pointed out. So, in essence, choosing an alternative browser will be dictated (in part) by that. It's not easy.

kendall.a has raised a very good point, about syncing between various devices and how important that is to some of us more than others. Syncing is a big part of modern life now, so choosing a desktop browser that doesn't have a mobile version may ultimately affect your choice.

For me, translation, image search and cloud storage are important considerations, although not necessities. My browser of choice provides those things, syncing also, but that may be irrelevant to many.

Opera provides a free VPN built into the browser, which may be important to some, although there are changes in ownership regarding that at the moment so that may affect the way people think. And if customisation of the UI is a big thing to you then Vivaldi, Firefox etc. are going to appeal more.

It's difficult to narrow it down to one specific browser. The personal preferences and requirements are endless
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