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Old 17. Oct 2015, 10:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I understand the noble sentiment behind choosing to whitelist websites one would deem worthy of support, however, as I understand it, simply allowing those ads into your screen space doesn't benefit the website directly unless you go further into the rabbit hole by clicking through on those ads and exposing yourself to their message/persuasion/idiocy/greed/propaganda...or whatever.

Personally, I don't want to give my time and attention to stuff which is of no interest or benefit. In a way, by viewing these ads I also feel I'm in someway encouraging the practice of intrusive advertising and sending a message to the advertisers that whatever they are peddling is of value.

Having said that, I am aware that hosting a website costs money, and that those who provide useful and creative content should get some rewards for their time and effort.

I do occasionally use the "donate" button, but I suspect, like most others, I don't do it often enough to do away with the need to generate income through advertising. As usual, I guess there's no easy answer.

Coincidently, Dedoimedo has just posted a timely article on the subject of internet advertising which makes interesting reading!
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Old 17. Oct 2015, 11:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I do occasionally use the "donate" button, but I suspect, like most others, I don't do it often enough to do away with the need to generate income through advertising. As usual, I guess there's no easy answer.

Coincidently, Dedoimedo has just posted a timely article on the subject of internet advertising which makes interesting reading!
I thought his best paragraph was the last. Much of the article lacks his usual incisive clarity but has some very good points and examples:
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What you can do, as a reader, is give love to your favorite sites. Forget about ads. They are irrelevant. If you really support your authors and creators, they will ditch the ads themselves. And if you're creating content, ask yourselves, why. Money? GTFO. Passion? Then, whatever Apple and Google and whoever else is doing doesn't really matter. You are already invincible.
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Old 17. Oct 2015, 12:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I've just looked at my Ad-blocker preferences and it is and has been, since installation, set to allow non intrusive ads since I want to be fair.
Curious that I still don't see any ads!!

Whenever my AV blocks a page, you can be reasonably sure that the "nasty" it has found is embedded in an advert since I tend to be a little choosy about links I visit.

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Old 17. Oct 2015, 01:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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an interesting article by Dedoimedo ,
but those blockers are 3rd party - what would happen,
- if they went away ? disappeared, whatever ..

maybe get lots of ads - you wouldn't be able to do much about it either.
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Old 17. Oct 2015, 03:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've just looked at my Ad-blocker preferences and it is and has been, since installation, set to allow non intrusive ads since I want to be fair.
Curious that I still don't see any ads!!
I'm surprised you don't see any ads given the potentially wide range deemed acceptable under the manifesto put forward by AdBlockPlus ?
Perhaps they are so non-intrusive that they're going unnoticed?

Taken on face value the proposals for what is considered acceptable sound reasonable to me.
Personally I'm currently using uBlock Origin which doesn't appear to be signed up to it though.
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Perhaps they are so non-intrusive that they're going unnoticed?
I rather doubt that.
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Old 18. Oct 2015, 03:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Would you rather disable your adblocker or pay to access content?
http://betanews.com/2015/10/13/would...ccess-content/
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Axel Springer bans adblock users from it's Bild online:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0S70S020151013
so - it may be more aggressive, than first thoughts, were.
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Old 19. Oct 2015, 12:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I pay for my internet via my ISP.
As I've said, I allow non-intrusive ads, but still don't see any.
And Sope, I have been a computer professional all my working life and much in demand as a beta tester for online software so, YES it is unlikely that I would have missed them.
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Old 19. Oct 2015, 01:27 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I block them, and don't feel bad either :S

Maybe for sites like this one I might, ones without income

but I read a lot of tech review sites too... if they are reviewing a product, they should get the company to pay them for the review and not the readers.

then if I don't like the biases lean, I go find another site...
I like how NPR does it, they have a fund raising drive a few times a year.

I remember a long time ago, a game site used to do this http://www.battleon.com/. They had an entire free play game and just ran a donation campaign when they needed money. Yes it disrupted the "play" but it meant people were impacted by it so they could keep playing or wait until someone forked over money to let them play. Or donate themselves and get to play during the "downtime". It wasn't much, a dollar or two I think, and you just needed to donate once and you got membership for life so you could just keep playing. They went to just selling memberships now I think so there is a division of free vs paid content.
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And Sope, I have been a computer professional all my working life and much in demand as a beta tester for online software so, YES it is unlikely that I would have missed them.
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Perhaps they are so non-intrusive that they're going unnoticed?
...I didn't mean to imply some failing on your part, it was meant in humour as a subtle dig at the notion of a "non-intrusive" ad .... surely if an ad exists, by it's nature it must be intrusive!
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