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danielson 06. May 2015 10:21 PM

That's okay Deya!
Your postings here have been just perfect here and i could never replace such a nice track record!
It just happened that i was casually visiting Vivaldi and had noticed the update.

Safe travels and come back soon!

deya 18. May 2015 05:11 PM

Snapshot 1.0.178.2;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...-more-settings

deya 01. Jun 2015 05:56 PM

Snapshot 1.0.190.2 available;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...n-mac-and-more

Auto updated, no problems. Some nice UI changes in this release.

danielson 02. Jun 2015 07:30 PM

Have had a few glitches with last two versions.

On a fresh install:
-settings options won't always open with this last one and the choice of alternative theme for borders does not work.

deya 02. Jun 2015 11:05 PM

Had the same problem with the settings window, couldn't understand it but then noticed that Vivaldi had auto disabled ÁBlock Origin - I'd had Yandex do the same also. So, long story cut short, I removed ÁBlock Origin and replaced it with ÁBlock. Problem solved for me. Settings window opens every time.

If you can't get into the settings window use this instead; vivaldi://settings .... which opens settings in a tab. You can add it as a speed dial as a temporary workaround if need be.

Not sure what you mean - alternative theme for borders. So can't help you there.

Don't know what the problem is with ÁBlock Origin, but I have a feeling it was responsible for Vivaldi being slow to start and one or two other issues. Browser works much better without it so onwards and upwards. ÁBlock works fine for now.

I don't have much time to mess about with it at the moment, although it could be how I had it set, filters etc. Yandex just wouldn't run it at all and warned it was trying to change privacy settings. Perhaps Vivaldi was trying to do the same, but because extensions are not properly supported yet it couldn't display the warning. Just a theory.

Anyway, if you do encounter problems like that it's worth disabling your extensions and see if they're causing them.

danielson 03. Jun 2015 12:42 AM

uBlock Origin is likely responsible.
Doing fresh install right now after muffing up at another try dual-bootin' Manjaro.
Can't get the CUPS goin' there.

Anyway, placing myself on Windows waiting list today for their upcoming official 10, i'm giving my all to test things a last time like Manjaro Linux and other things like Vivaldi beta before doing hopefully, one last "fresh" install prior to "d" day with Windows 10.

Do have more serious work on hand too though...

deya 03. Jun 2015 08:29 AM

Had a look at Wilders, there's a ÁBlock block thread there, and there's mention of Origin disabling in Chrome and not being allowed to re-start until permission is granted.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threa...365273/page-51

I can't be absolutely sure, but think that's what was causing problems with Vivaldi because it definitely did disable Origin - but just couldn't give the warning.

deya 03. Jun 2015 09:29 AM

Quick update. Found this regarding ÁBlock Origin;

http://techdows.com/2015/06/why-ublo...-settings.html

... and this from gorhill;

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases/tag/0.9.8.2

deya 08. Jun 2015 07:17 PM

Snapshot 1.0.196.2 available;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...et-auto-update

Updated, no problems.

deya 15. Jun 2015 06:15 PM

Snapshot 1.0.201.2;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...mouse-gestures

... "Improvements to Search Engine Management, Spatial Navigation, Gray look and the foundations for customisable mouse gestures" ...

No problems with the update.

danielson 16. Jun 2015 01:28 AM

Gray look is better.
Wonder if a blue V logo would fit better?
If i had some designing time on hand...

deya 16. Jun 2015 08:27 AM

Yes, I think it looks better .. not that I dislike coloured tabs. I think I prefer the grey but it's good to have the option to choose. Blue button might work - you should ask them. You never know :)

This build is quicker for me, browser loads quicker and so do pages. Another Opera team member has joined their ranks as well. Good to see.

danielson 16. Jun 2015 11:48 AM

Ya, well, maybe i should learn how to correctly spell the color grey before posting that request!

Another Opera team member has joined you say?
Good news indeed!

deya 16. Jun 2015 12:24 PM

:D ... you did spell it correctly, depending which side of the pond you're at.

I think the guy who joined from Opera is more on the Linux side of things.

The_Blode 18. Jun 2015 04:08 PM

Thanks for sharing this. I'll give it a go later on tonight. :)

deya 25. Jun 2015 05:05 PM

Snapshot 1.0.209.3 available;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...-tab-switching

"More visual improvements and better mouse support"....

Quite a lot of changes in this snapshot so best read the page before you decide to try it.

Pay particular attention to the known issues - I'll print them here;

The default keyboard shortcut for "Cheat sheet" might not work on some keyboard layouts—You can change it

No menu item for "Cheat Sheet" on Linux and MacOS

The Extensions manager is blank—Installed extensions will continue to work

Copy and paste in the bookmarks manager may not work

Thumbnail tabs on the left have some issues

Manually checking for autoupdate can fail—Restart the browser and wait and autoupdate should work.


Extensions do still work, but the extensions page is blank - so that might be an issue for some users. But the update went fine and the browser runs fine.

danielson 26. Jun 2015 01:47 AM

"Visual improvements" are welcome, very nice indeed! :)

deya 27. Jun 2015 06:45 PM

Visual improvements are good. Shows what can be done with these browsers as regards the user interface etc. This build is very buggy though, for me at least, and I've had one or two problems while messing around with it. They did have problems with it, that's why it was a few days later being released than usual. Hopefully they'll iron some of them out for the next build.

Building this browser, and adding in all the features that users want, is a huge task. I still think they're doing a great job of it.

danielson 27. Jun 2015 07:25 PM

Plenty of work for sure!

Did dab into a bit of .html once upon a time and can only image what these folks are up against.
Check, double-check, triple-check...

deya 30. Jun 2015 05:27 PM

Snapshot 1.0.212 available;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...our-way-to-tp4

Extensions page is back with this build. Updated via auto update. No problems.

deya 07. Jul 2015 07:41 PM

Snapshot 1.0.219.3;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...ean-speed-dial

.... 'A cleaner Speed Dial and lots of fixes'

danielson 09. Jul 2015 02:00 PM

Do you think they'll ever have an Android version?

deya 09. Jul 2015 08:31 PM

I would have thought so, yes. Can't see it being any time soon though.

deya 13. Jul 2015 04:51 PM

Snapshot 1.0.219.34;

https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/i...und-the-corner

... "TP4 is just around the corner"

Updated no problem, but when I get the time this evening I'm going to do a clean install of Vivaldi. One or two annoying bugs still exist, for me, so best start afresh and see if they still persist.

deya 13. Jul 2015 07:51 PM

Clean install but still a few snags. I have a problem copying and pasting URL's, and this in turn leads to bookmarks being added in random folders. I've had this issue for the past few builds. Also Vivaldi still doesn't start maximised and the side panel is always open on start up.

Small issues really, but the URL problem gets annoying after a while. Had a problem with certain extensions, not all, being disabled for some reason. Clean install has fixed that.

Good thing in this latest build is that you can use the chrome bookmarks manager again, which enables you to export bookmarks to HTML. Nice to have if you need to keep clean installing the browser.

Also good to see that the install folder is getting smaller in size now. Last build was 281 MB with the back up application folder. This build, clean copy so no back up app folder is 141 MB so considerably smaller than early versions. The browser is also much faster at loading on start up and also loads pages much quicker than in the past.

Definitely improving all the time, but the little bugs need attention - which is still to be expected and which I'm sure they're well aware of and are working hard to put right.

danielson 14. Jul 2015 12:57 AM

I find it more thrilling to follow progress Vivaldi is making than the new Windows 10 which is just around the corner. Considering the crew they have at Microsoft, i find it hard to believe their new Edge browser won't even have extensions by their official debut day of July 29 :rolleyes:

Maximize issue in Vivaldi is a known one.

danielson 14. Jul 2015 07:48 PM

Just to test you geekiness Deya!

Is there a way to have Vivaldi backup a copy of its note taking feature to Dropbox?
Something like Word that has a temp file backed up elsewhere on your disk.

deya 14. Jul 2015 08:03 PM

Snapshot 1.0.219.43;

https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/i...lation-updates

... "Translation updates before TP4"

Another snapshot. Updated no problem. Still seem to have my URL issue going on. Two app folders now, install is 281 MB, so as before. Smaller.

Don't know the answer to your question danielson, but if I come across one I'll post it here. Notes in Vivaldi is not something I use too often at the moment, and neither do I use Dropbox.

I'll have a look around.

deya 15. Jul 2015 04:44 PM

Snapshot 1.0.219.51;

https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/i...fix-before-tp4

..... "Crash fix before TP4"

Updated no problems. If you use Disqus and have an account then best to read the blog post.

deya 16. Jul 2015 12:05 PM

Vivaldi browser Technical Preview 4 is here;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...eview4-is-here

Done a clean install of this new version so need to set it up properly. It's 140 MB installed now.

deya 16. Jul 2015 02:39 PM

Ok - bump again - sorry :)

Everything set after a clean install and, to be honest, they've done a good job with TP4. It's quick, it doesn't hog resources and the UI is snappy. There are many changes from TP3, they've done a lot of work and if you only install the Tech Previews and skip the snapshots then you'll really see the difference in this version.

If you keep in mind that Vivaldi (at present) isn't even at Beta stage then I think it's even more impressive. I've been running it this afternoon with a Eurosport live TV stream of the Tour streaming constantly in one tab and then ten or more other tabs doing various other stuff, simultaneously, and it handles it all with ease and runs very light on resources. Much lighter than some other browsers I've tried - stable ones at that.

As mentioned, the install size has shrunk considerably. So that's a good thing. Extensions; even though there are still no toolbar icons, they work well and can easily be installed from the Chrome Store now. The ones I use work perfect. The UI customisation options are impressive to say the least, so many options to change the appearance of the browser. Set it how you want. I can't think of another browser that offers so much in that respect, and it's very easy to change stuff around via the settings panel.

That's another thing with Vivaldi ... it does a lot, but it's not complicated to make changes. It's very user friendly as regards the settings. You can do a lot with Lunascape for example, but it's a bit complicated to get it set how you want it and I think that puts people off of using it. It's not simplified enough. The Vivaldi devs have taken care to not over complicate things and I think it works well.

Issues? Yes, without doubt there are bugs. I still have the copy and paste URL problem and it can be annoying. The browser still doesn't open maximised but you can fix that by right clicking the Vivaldi icon and selecting properties, then click to open the 'Run' drop down menu and select 'maximised'. That does the trick - if it's a problem to you.

It uses the same engine as Chrome, as several other browsers do, but I think it would be harsh to call Vivaldi a Chrome clone now. It does so much more than any other I've tried. There's still a long way to go but it's worth trying - TP4, if it interests you that is.

It's stable enough, I've not had it crash for ages. It auto updates with no problems. It's now a reasonable sized install and it runs light. Updates come thick and fast.

It's also ready for Windows 10 and is therefore part of the future - mine at least :)

danielson 16. Jul 2015 02:41 PM

Working nice here on Windows 10 Preview 10240
Opening to startpage with maximized windows still not fixed though.

deya 17. Jul 2015 04:58 PM

Snapshot 1.0.228.3;

https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/i...-chromeless-ui

.... "With Chromeless UI"

Busy week. Quite a sizeable changelog with this version. Lots of bug fixes.

@danielson - see the workaround for starting maximised in my previous post. It works no problem, but you'll have to re-apply the fix with each version update.

deya 22. Jul 2015 05:30 PM

Snapshot 1.0.231.3;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...ddress-spatnav

... "Draggable tab bar, favicons in the address bar and spatial navigation improvements"

deya 28. Jul 2015 03:18 PM

Snapshot 1.0.233.3;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...lue-for-rewind

... "Reload bypassing cache shortcuts and a visual clue for Rewind"

deya 18. Aug 2015 05:06 PM

Snapshot 1.0.249.12;

https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/i...e-improvements

.... 'Web Panels, Extension buttons UI, Progress bar info and tab performance improvements'

Good to see the extension buttons. Read the page first. There may be bugs etc.

CASD 18. Aug 2015 11:48 PM

I get an error... while updating..

deya 19. Aug 2015 09:04 AM

/\ .... I had that happen. It's generally caused by the servers not being able to cope with all the downloads at that time, it's happened to me before. Try it again a while later and it works.

Yesterday I just downloaded the set-up from the blog page and installed it that way.

danielson 20. Aug 2015 01:33 AM

With all the publicity they've been getting lately, perhaps that's a good sign!

History issue is a bummer.

deya 20. Aug 2015 10:17 AM

You'll have to enlighten me, danielson .. about the history issue?


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