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deya 25. Feb 2015 07:12 PM

Just checked, and with this latest version you can now install extensions directly from the Chrome Web Store. So you should be able to add what you like now. I've tried a couple just to test and they installed fine. Just remember that you still won't get the extension icons in the UI.

But it's a step in the right direction for those who want to try their favourite extensions.

deya 02. Mar 2015 07:57 PM

Update - Snapshot 1.0.118.2 now available;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...shot-1-0-118-2

Tab pinning and spatial navigation included in this version, amongst other things. No problems with the over the top update. This is the RC for Vivaldi Technical Preview 2.

deya 05. Mar 2015 07:25 PM

Technical Preview 2 available;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...view-2-is-here

No problems with over the top install. Changelog link is on the page.

deya 09. Mar 2015 07:22 PM

Weekly snapshot, 1.0.123.10;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...apshot-1012310

danielson 09. Mar 2015 08:34 PM

Panda AV is freakin' out with this version.
First it claims it to be a virus with inherent re-boot.
Managed to install it and run it just the same and now after a few tries, it won't even let me run it!

BTW, has Vivaldi figured out a way to make default page load at start?

deya 10. Mar 2015 12:03 AM

Can't help with the Panda issue. I use 360 TS and nothing untoward happened when I installed the latest Vivaldi version.

And, no. Still no setting for default start page. I'm still just going to speed dial before closing the browser, then it opens on that at next start.

danielson 10. Mar 2015 11:55 AM

Thank heaven for a backed up disk image.
Trying 360 TS for the first time and no issues with Vivaldi 64bit - at least for installation. ;)

George.J 10. Mar 2015 12:50 PM

Is there an setting so that only a single process runs just like the old Opera? I know this isn't the safest route, but could be memory efficient.

torres-no-tan-magnifico 10. Mar 2015 01:37 PM

I've just noticed that my Vivaldi folder, under Program Files, is 405 MB in size whereas my Firefox folder is less than 94 MB!
Version 1.0.118.19 occupies 138 MB and version 1.0.123.10 265 MB. Could I delete the former without affecting the settings I have in the latter?

deya 10. Mar 2015 04:18 PM

George; There is no setting to run Vivaldi as a single process like the old Opera. All these Chrome/Blink, whatever, browsers run multiple processes. Each extension is a separate process, as is each tab, speed dial etc. They're all the same in that respect. It's how they run. You can open the Vivaldi task manager to see what processes are running and the resources they're consuming.

torres; The new Opera does the same, it stores the previous version in the program file. I think I once read somewhere that it does it as a back-up in case anything goes wrong with the latest version. Each time you update, the older version is deleted to be replaced by the latest version and the one previous to that.

You can delete the older version from the file if you want to - I've just done it to check - and the browser still functions as normal. I deleted it to the recycle bin and ran the browser with no issue, then I restored it, because I prefer to leave the two versions installed. I've done the same with Opera in the past with the same result. But if disk space is an issue then yes, you can delete it manually.

Vivaldi, at the moment, is almost twice the file size as Opera. But, like Opera, the file size should decrease as the browser develops, over time. I think it's something they're working on, reducing the file size.

This is the argument that people have about Chrome/Blink being resource hungry, as opposed to Gecko or the old Presto. It's just how they work, it doesn't bother me - and the machine I use for my personal use is hardly state of the art, but I've got enough RAM and disk space so it's not an issue. If, however, you have limited resources then it does become an issue, and this is why people would prefer to use browsers like Otter etc. Less resources.

danielson; an after thought. The first few days I ran Vivaldi I noticed that it created quite a bit of activity from 360 TS. I ran a scan with 360 and it uploaded Vivaldi for file analysis. It then listed the file as safe and since then there have been no more instances of high activity from 360 when running Vivaldi. Maybe Panda was doing something similar? ... wanting to check the file in the cloud? It's still a relatively new file after all. Not sure. Just a thought.

torres-no-tan-magnifico 10. Mar 2015 06:49 PM

deya,
Many thanks for your informative feedback. ;-)

deya 11. Mar 2015 04:08 PM

Another update - Subject: Snapshot 1.0.124.2: Mea Culpa;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...24-2-mea-culpa

"After we released the 1.0.123.10 snapshot yesterday, some observant testers checked the release for the recent FREAK vulnerability, and found that The Linux and Mac versions were vulnerable" .... they forgot to update the normal development code. This update corrects it.

deya 16. Mar 2015 07:16 PM

Weekly snapshot 1.0.129.2;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...shot-1-0-129-2

deya 23. Mar 2015 07:58 PM

Weekly snapshot;

https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/i...ate-on-windows

Best to read the known issues before installing this version.

Known issues

Mouse gestures is broken at the moment
Import of bookmarks broken except from Chrome
Import of passwords from Chrome does not work while Chrome is running
Vivaldi crashes when you open new tab after putting tabs on the side
Context menu on page sometimes does not trigger before second attempt


As it stands, and briefly reading a few posts on their blog, this version would appear to be a bit more buggy than previous builds - which is to be expected with the browser being still in the early stages of development.

So just a caution, if you do install these weekly builds, and the known issues in this one might be a hassle to you (mouse gestures in my case) then you may want to stick with the build you already have installed until these issues are ironed out.

That said, I went ahead and updated it anyway. Mouse gestures definitely don't work but the browser and its settings updated no problem.

danielson 24. Mar 2015 07:10 PM

Hopefully fixed soon.

Isn't it interesting to see how Opera has made some interesting improvements over the last while (see GHacks)? Wonder if Vivaldi has something to do with that?

deya 24. Mar 2015 08:28 PM

Yes, agreed. Opera seem to be upping the pace regarding updates to their various channels and similarities between the two are there to see of late.

I mainly use Opera Developer, now at version 30, which now has a sidebar for extensions. Very similar to Vivaldi's sidebar, as are both start pages/speed dials - history, bookmarks etc.

Of the two, Opera is way more advanced, which is to be expected. But where as Opera relies heavily on extensions, Vivaldi has the features built in.

I have no doubt there's competition between them now. Opera have had a swift kick up the rear end. Good thing. But who's copying who?

danielson 25. Mar 2015 12:46 AM

As usual, your "intuitions" are pretty good Deya!
Opera Developer is nice indeed!
Had tried stable and was unable to install some extensions.
Next and Developer don't have that issue.

Don't want to be picky with Vivaldi, but knowing beforehand that mouse gestures were out of order, i would have preferred they put it out a day later instead. It is after all, a default feature.

danielson 25. Mar 2015 02:24 AM

BTW, forgot to ask how you get side panel in Opera Dev?

deya 25. Mar 2015 07:07 PM

To get the side panel in Opera Dev;

Click the Opera menu button, go to Extensions, then click on Sidebar. The panel will open on the left of screen. To get sidebar extensions, go to the Opera Extensions page and look along the top. You'll see a sidebar link, click on that and the extensions for the sidebar are there. There are about 20 to choose from at the moment.

You can only access the sidebar extensions if you're running Opera Dev - it won't work with Opera Stable at the moment.

deya 26. Mar 2015 06:41 PM

Another update. Version 1.0.138.4 available to download;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...more-snappy-ui

Mouse gestures are back, and improved. Quite a few changes in this version so read the page for better info on those.

When I first did the update, which was an auto update via the program, the mouse gestures still didn't work. I got to thinking that maybe I'd trashed my original install of the browser a bit too much over the past few weeks. So I decided to start afresh with a clean install.

Backed up my bookmarks, uninstalled Vivaldi, and started again with a fresh install of this latest version. Things run much better, so imported my bookmarks, re-installed my extensions and now everything is pretty much back as it was and running fine.

One thing, obviously a bug, is that on start-up the auto updater keeps offering me a newer version. Click to update and I get a pop up window asking for a user name and password. So I just click the 'remind me later' option. No big deal, I'll try investigate further.

Glad I decided to do a clean install, it runs much better. Maybe would have been more of a pain if I hadn't used my work around bookmark manager URL which enabled me to back up to HTML, then import them from the same HTML file. Worked perfect, and after a bit of reorganising I'm back to where I was with bookmarks and speed dial.

Also good to see the Vivaldi devs responding quickly to release a newer version to replace the previous one, which was very buggy indeed - for me at least.

deya 29. Mar 2015 01:49 PM

Tile tab stack in this latest version is good, very useful to me. Its a bit like split screen in Maxthon, only you can split the screen into more than two, depending on how many tabs you have in the stack.

I prefer it to switching between two open tabs for some things, and it works well.

Cleared up the issue with the auto update. Seems they loaded a future version for release by mistake, they soon corrected it, but reading their blog it appears that some users actually got the download. They say it incorporates the new built in mail feature, although it isn't working yet. Anyway, the auto updater now shows the browser as up to date so problem solved.

I've messed around with the browser, breaking it a couple of times, trying stuff I suppose I really shouldn't so I've had to clean install Vivaldi a couple more times. I was reluctant to do this previously, but now I can backup my bookmarks to HTML and re-import them to a fresh install it's not so much of a pain. And I can soon re-set the browser to how I previously had it now - extensions etc.

Also, the added mouse gesture to open a new tab is proving useful and I'm using the built in notes feature much more. Notes is a good feature in Vivaldi and works well.

Clicking around the UI of the browser is much more responsive than previous builds, the browser itself is much snappier than it previously was. It doesn't lag as much.

The extensions work well, better than in early builds, although you still don't get the address bar icons. I have five installed. History Eraser, Magic Actions for YouTube, Scroll To Top Button, ÁBlock and WOT.

They seem to work better now that you can install them directly from the Chrome Store, as opposed to the earlier work around methods I was using - .crx files etc. ÁBlock definitely works better now, and by using History Eraser to clear the browser I don't lose my speed dial images like I do if I clear the browser via History - Clear browsing data. The speed dials don't go back to black, which I think is a bug.

It's also good to be able to choose the location for downloaded files now, which you couldn't do with earlier builds. I prefer downloads to the desktop, and now that's possible - as is any other location.

All in all, this build is the best one so far, for me. I'm happy to trash it around and clean install it if need be. I'm learning by trial and error what can and cannot be done with it to date. I'm picking up stuff form their forum and blog from various users, although I have no desire to join up and post there with my thoughts. I recognise some of the characters there from the Opera forums and blog, the rude and argumentative ones who offer not much in the way of help but seem to like to ridicule or insult people who come to seek help or offer input. Loonies in other words. I don't find their input to be very constructive either. But there are some posters there who offer up some good ideas and advice so they're worth a read. It's all a learning curve at the end of the day, for everybody. I just hope the loonies don't spoil their forums - but time will tell.

Sorry for the thread bump - again. Just some more observations and thoughts for anyone on here who is using Vivaldi and might find them of use.

deya 30. Mar 2015 04:34 PM

... and again, Snapshot 1.0.141.2;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...better-spatnav

Auto update notification and install worked perfect this time. No problems.

Improvements to tab tiling and notes. Good stuff.

danielson 01. Apr 2015 01:50 PM

As much as i admire the return of Opera-like browser... it's still a Chromium (Google) based browser. For stats purposes, does it get recognized on the web as Chromium or as Opera (Vivaldi)? Dat is da question!

Guess that might be similar question for Palemoon.

deya 01. Apr 2015 03:26 PM

Dunno how it's recognised in Web stat counters but Qualys shows it as Google Chrome 41.0.2272.105, and up to date. Dat is da ansa.

It's a Chrome browser, for sure - a Chrome clone, whatever, and for a long time I struggled to get along with any of them. Tried them all at some point. But now I accept that this is the way it is and so I've learned to live with them.

An 'old' Opera like browser but with a modern engine etc, and enough customisable features so as to differentiate it from other such clones. That's the way I'm looking at it.

deya 01. Apr 2015 11:15 PM

Snapshot 1.0.142.32 available;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...hot-1-0-142-32

deya 04. Apr 2015 02:35 PM

Came across this URL for Vivaldi content settings. Might be useful for anyone here who's still trying the browser, gives you more control over cookies, plug-ins - click to play etc.

vivaldi://chrome/settings/content

Using it doesn't break the browser or anything, it works fine. You can bookmark the page for future use. One of the more useful URL's I've come across at this early stage of the browser.

deya 10. Apr 2015 07:26 PM

Snapshot: 1.0.151.7 available. Got it via auto update. No problems.

https://vivaldi.net/blogs/teamblog/i...tons-of-polish

deya 17. Apr 2015 04:49 PM

Snapshot 1.0.156.2;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...s-of-bug-fixes

Auto updated without problems.

danielson 18. Apr 2015 02:43 AM

Can't seem to install uBlocko on this version.
Also, using 64bit on Windows, can't seem to install extensions directly from Google.

deya 18. Apr 2015 12:51 PM

Can't help you with the 64bit issue, I'm using 32bit. You could always try that instead? You can download various previous versions from here;

http://www.astonsoftware.ro/file/page/199/vivaldi

Choose whichever version you want, click the long green download button then select your OS - Linux, Mac, Windows etc. Maybe the 32bit versions are a little more stable? ... not sure. Have you looked on the Vivaldi forums to see if anyone else is experiencing the same issue?

I didn't have a problem installing uBlocko. It's working fine.

danielson 18. Apr 2015 01:46 PM

Don't know what happened.
Things are working this a.m.
Kind of, at least i can install extensions from Google's site.

Had downloaded and unzipped uBlocko but browser can't find (see) it so i'll be happy with the one from Googles' site for now.

deya 18. Apr 2015 02:31 PM

Yes, I installed uBlocko from the Chrome Store so you should be ok.

Have a read of the comments on the blog page for the update;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...s-of-bug-fixes

Looks like there have been problems for some users with the update, problem with the install folders - portable installs. Maybe something like that affected you?

deya 24. Apr 2015 01:15 PM

Vivaldi Snapshot 1.0.161.2 released;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...more-bugfixing

Installed via the auto updater without problems.

Interesting to note that they make reference to the job losses at Opera in Oslo and elsewhere this week. Changing times.

https://opvard.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/goodbye-opera/

danielson 24. Apr 2015 01:58 PM

Sad day for Opera employees in Oslo...

Testing installation of extensions on this Vivaldi 1.0.161.2;
so far so good (WOT, Diigo and uBlock Origin) all installed just fine.
Don't know why Diigo doesn't show up on top "panel" bar.

Still no go on getting the browser to startup with default page yet.
Did post on Vivaldi forum a while back (work in progress).
Hope it won't take as long as it took Opera (Chrome) to get a bookmark manager...

deya 24. Apr 2015 04:27 PM

Sad day indeed. Cheaper to operate in Poland than Norway I suppose. Economics.

User Interface doesn't support extensions yet, don't know what Diigo is but that's probably why nothing shows up for it. Work in progress :)

Have to say that this release is one of the better ones of late for me. Browser is much snappier.

deya 26. Apr 2015 09:44 AM

Snapshot 1.0.162.2 released;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...-tp3-candidate

.... "we've reached the point where we have a release candidate for the TP3, so we are launching another snapshot today in preparation for that"....

deya 28. Apr 2015 08:58 AM

Vivaldi Technical Preview 3 is released;

https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/team...27-tp3-is-here

Didn't get it through auto update. Downloaded it from their main site page, which also has a new look;

https://vivaldi.com

Installed over the top and everything works fine. No problems.

deya 28. Apr 2015 11:15 AM

Bump again - sorry. But regarding TP3.

In answer to a question about auto update on their blog, one the development team replied, "Snapshots wont auto-update to Technical Previews, they are on a different auto-update lane" ....

So if you do have Vivaldi installed and want to install this latest version you'll have to download it manually from their main site - linked to in my previous post.

TP3 is very stable though, and much improved since TP2.

Performance is better, new features work well but there are still things missing - extension UI icons etc. But you have to bear in mind it's still not even at Beta stage yet.

I think they've made very good progress in the time since Vivaldi first appeared on the scene.

The Vivaldi team seems to have grown in number since the first builds, and perhaps more will be recruited now after the recent developments at Opera. Personally speaking, I hope that's the case because talent like that shouldn't go to waste. But that's just my opinion, obviously.

Interesting to watch it develop from the ground up, makes you appreciate free software and the toil and dedication that goes into creating it.

danielson 06. May 2015 02:45 AM

Snapshot 1.0.167.2. Better keyboard-shortcut editing and user statistics is available.

I beat Deya! ;)

deya 06. May 2015 10:09 PM

Travelling at the moment - with a sketchy connection, danielson. So you'll have to post the updates :D


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